Shit load of smoke

[Ruan]

youve obviously never driven a well set up hdi then jimbo

They drive like a new car engine wise, with smooth hard torque delivery and will rev hard with the right mapping. Different league altogether, more modern VW etc have went CR Injection which says something!

All I can say is you've not driven a well set up XUD...

There's a very good reason Peugeot kept with the Indirect design until 2007 in the DW8.

With a decent turbo and other slight changes they drive as well if not better than a HDi with similar levels of refinement, it's just that usually they've been pissed with.