Civic vtec b16 blahblah and what not

[C.A.R.]

They are great on track I have no doubt, but like any engine with a higher cam profile or 'lift' they are very tiresome to drive on the road. My Celica was marginally slower than an EP3 (but infinitely better looking :p ) yet it was incredibly difficult keeping pace with things like a 182 Clio and even one of those Merc Kompressor coupe things, purely cos it had no torque. It only became really fast by the time you were in 4th, by which point you were in 3 figures and it walked most things, but who can do those speeds regularly?