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		I cut my PAS long loop pipe off and now run without it, as it was very badly corroded to which i poked a hole in it
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (24-04-2016, 06:40 PM)Eeyore Wrote:   (24-04-2016, 04:37 PM)mackat Wrote:  Enjoyable read!   
 
What injectors are you going to use? 
Just out of interest what wideband and gauges are you installing?  
thanks. Its a PLX multi gauge which is touch screen so you can go between whatever sensors you install. It connects to a box and you can piggy back multiple boxes together and then scroll through them on the gauge. You can display the value, graph, or min/current/max. Its quite clever. Think it was about £120 including the wideband sensor.  
 
Just using standard gti6 injectors. 
That looks pretty nifty and not a bad price either. Could you have used the original lambda sensor?
 
Nice update too - bugger that you can't fire it up!   
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		You probably could but the fact it comes with a nice new one in a plug and play kit makes it super easy to do.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (24-04-2016, 08:56 PM)Toms306 Wrote:  I think the '6 is just set up to take more abuse tbh, hence extra heat protection everywhere - thicker rad, battery cooling duct, PAS cooler & pressure sensor, heat shielding around exhaust etc. 
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		Yep!  Its just a plastic tube from the bumper up to the battery box, no idea if it makes any difference to battery life though.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Ordered lots more bits tonight to finish this off. Fuel line, fuel line clips, brake vaccuum line, catch can breather, harness ring bolts, subframe bolts, coil pack bolts, a spare inlet gasket and a better accelerator cable end. Hopefully will all be here by the weekend for more action!
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Looking good mate, just a shame your.having trouble starting 😕 hopefully you'll get to the bottom of it soon though!  
 
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		 (24-04-2016, 08:40 PM)Toms306 Wrote:  Only GTis/Rallyes have the PAS cooler!  Its for all the extra steering you have to do in carparks with the stupid right hand lock!   
My DT had the cooling pipes so not just the gtis/rallyes
	  
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		That's weird, definitely not on any other phase 3s!
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		mackat ' Wrote:  That looks pretty nifty and not a bad price either. Could you have used the original lambda sensor? 
 
Nice update too - bugger that you can't fire it up!   
 
Been advised to use IWP162's for bodies, will find out in two weeks time.. 
I wouldn't, they're massive!
 
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		 (25-04-2016, 08:21 AM)Toms306 Wrote:  Yep!  Its just a plastic tube from the bumper up to the battery box, no idea if it makes any difference to battery life though. 
I take it not fitted to hdi-lx then?
	  
	
	
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		just ordered a mini timer 4 pin connector from emerald. £8 posted and seem to be difficult to find online. Should be able to try testing earthing the coil pack now.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (26-04-2016, 09:29 PM)Magenta Sunset Wrote:   (25-04-2016, 08:21 AM)Toms306 Wrote:  Yep!  Its just a plastic tube from the bumper up to the battery box, no idea if it makes any difference to battery life though.  
I take it not fitted to hdi-lx then? 
Nope, only fitted the GTi/Rallye.  HDi's won't get hot enough!!     There's also no battery box on a HDi, just a metal tray, so there would be nowhere to direct the airflow anyway.
	  
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		um I looked at my battery box at the airflow hole in the side of the battery box, it isn't actually cut through! 
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		 (26-04-2016, 09:49 PM)Toms306 Wrote:   (26-04-2016, 09:29 PM)Magenta Sunset Wrote:   (25-04-2016, 08:21 AM)Toms306 Wrote:  Yep!  Its just a plastic tube from the bumper up to the battery box, no idea if it makes any difference to battery life though.  
I take it not fitted to hdi-lx then?  
Nope, only fitted the GTi/Rallye.  HDi's won't get hot enough!!    There's also no battery box on a HDi, just a metal tray, so there would be nowhere to direct the airflow anyway. 
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		Is a 13 row cooler going to be big enough to keep it cool on track as I see alot of people use 16 rows?  
 
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		 (26-04-2016, 09:01 PM)welshpug Wrote:  mackat Wrote:  That looks pretty nifty and not a bad price either. Could you have used the original lambda sensor? 
 
Nice update too - bugger that you can't fire it up!   
 
Been advised to use IWP162's for bodies, will find out in two weeks time..  
I wouldn't, they're massive! 
 
standard injectors are enough for most, im going twin on my new engine, they were there with the old one but had a misfire with one set so they were turned off 
I'll update my project thread rather than add to this   
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		 (26-04-2016, 09:43 PM)Stef205 Wrote:  loads on ebay lol! you cant buy 4 online for that 
what are you searching to get that then? I spent almost an hour searching.
	  
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		junior timer plug, timer plug, omex plug. Stuff like that heres the seller i use. Wired the twin using this seller good products. 
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		Update. It lives! It runs! It drives! Done about 40 miles on it today and it appears to be faultless! I'll do a proper update with photos when I'm on PC.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (30-04-2016, 11:07 PM)Stef205 Wrote:  Surely your need a map tweak 
You realise this has a gti6 jenvey 45 map? It will be checked over at some point but no issues so far.
	  
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		it needs mapping asap, before you melt it
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (01-05-2016, 10:12 AM)welshpug Wrote:  it needs mapping asap, before you melt it 
100% this. But knowing Sam he won't listen because it feels fine and then will moan when it's all melted into one lump of steel lol
	  
	
	
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		Lol.  Why would it be so much worse than an identical engine?  I can see the point of tweaking it but doubt it's likely to be so far out to melt stuff?  I think he's got the lambda gauge in also.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		its not a self learning ecu, no knock sensor etc. 
 
small differences in throttle stop position throttle sensor, air bleed screws, trumpet lengths exhaust flow can all make one map very different to another for an "identical" engine.
	 
	
	
	
		
	 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Imo its running,it needs tuning yes. But in the meantime let the man enjoy the bwaarrrrpppp we would all do the same i know i would and have done in the past.
	 
	
	
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