White phase 1, now with added truck turbo and massive head gasket failure

[sam]

Yeah mate I laughed when he told me that haha got quoted 350 for my xantia manifold to be welded :O went round the corner and he said he could do it for 85

[ozonehostile]

So instead of wasting time and money on all this new years nonsense ive spent a full day on the 306.
screen came out today (only one finger sliced open, my partner in crime not me), drilled loads of holes in the bulkhead for gauge wires, raided the electrical cupboard at work for heatshrink and crimpers to get a nice tidy finish, drilled more holes in the dash for wires, relocated the cigarette lighter socket out of the ashtray to the center console, plumbed in the fuel pressure gauge then sorted all the wiring out so all the gauges are now illuminated.




last day off work 2moz so another early start to make the most of it, hoping to get the other 4 gauges wired up and mounted, also doing some painting and making up a plexiglass gauge surround

[Piggy]

coolio

[procta]

coming on there fella

[Tom]

Getting there! Would love to see this in person

[cwspellowe]

The turbo is a Holset 3590506 with manual wastegate
Its from a MAN L2000 series lorry, 6.8 liter 6 pot engine

Im guessing that the 35 at the start of the number is the frame size and so its a HX35

Hate to say it, there's NO way that's a HX40W....

A 3.0 6cyl STRUGGLES to spool a HX35 by around 4000rpm.... Doesn't look anything like as big as a HX40 either...

The HX number is a frame/core size to which you can add any compressor wheel and housing combos you want. Some of the HX35 stuff is barely any bigger than T2 size so its possible.

Serial number for the blower comes back as the WH1E, a HX40 derivant, with around a 58mm compressor wheel. Something doesn't sound right about it given the apparent size of the hotside.

Quick google tells us this:

HX40:

The 8blade hx40 has a 58mm inducer and flows about the same as a 60-1 (around 60lb/min) with ALOT better high boost efficiency and spool speed. It is the most common hx40 out there. The small bep housing with the hx40 turbine wheel is plenty to reach the full potential of the 60lb/min 8blade hx40 compressor. 20+ psi by 4100rpms with 272s.

The 7 and 6 blade hx40 is called the super40 and has the 60mm compressor inducer. This compressor flows around 69lb/min. You can get this wheel in billet style (think HTA). The non-billet wheel spools as fast as the 8blade hx40 in the bolton bep housing and has done 653whp at 40psi per the holset results only thread. Billet should spool even faster. The t3 .70 a/r BEP housing slows spool about 400rpms. But reports show a significant gain in flow per psi. So expect more power at lower boost with that turbine housing.

H1E/WH1E:

The Wh1e is like it's little brother the Wh1c. It mirrors the hx40 8blade in every way except that it has a v-band compressor cover and a 4bolt chra-turbinehousing pattern. It will consequently bolt into the hx40 bep bolton turbine housing and this is plenty of flow to max out its 60lb/min compressor.

The h1e is like it's little brother the h1c. There are different size compressors. . . BUT there are also different size turbine wheels too. Check measurements before buying this turbo if you plan on running a BEP turbine housing. There are lower flowing compressors than the 58mm 8blade that are out there. So this turbo may not flow any more than an hx35 if get the wrong one. You need at least a 58mm compressor inducer for this to be a worthwhile turbo vs the proven hx35 or 8blade hx40.

Either way you look at it, the serial number's for an HX40 or WH1E. Which is ridiculously massive.

[Piggy]

with a hotside that big....surely the 1.9 cant spool it up till high rpm?!

[ozonehostile]

I can't find much more info than what I've given you on the turbo, just have to see It In person to make up your mind on it
Anyway, more progress updates.
Attempted to get the phase 3 rear lights wired in, I say attempted because I'm an idiot and cut half the wires too high up so an hour of work turned into 4 as I had to stand there with a multimeter trying to decipher which wire was which.
Pretty sure I have frostbite now too
No pictures today as the job isn't finished and im annoyed about it. Also back to work 2moz so the 306 will have to wait until the weekend

[cwspellowe]

Is it not gearbox mounted? Should be easy enough to take pictures of the serial plate surely?

[ozonehostile]

It would be if it had a serial plate.....

[cwspellowe]

Where did that serial number came from that you gave us then?

[ozonehostile]

Where did that serial number came from that you gave us then?

There's no plate, just numbers stamped around the edge of the snail that I assume is the serial number

[ozonehostile]

Couldn't resist getting some stuff done on the car today, sat at work all day counting down the hours until i could go home and crack on with it.
anyway, nearly got the new lights sorted, still got an indicator issue but i think ive found the problem now. need to get the new bumper into the painters to finish off the new rear end


went back to work after 20 mins messing with the lights to finish off a few small jobs, then clocked off to get some painting done and more polishing of the 11mm pump



nice white bits

[Ben]

Very shiney pump!

[ozonehostile]

been busy at work today but still managed to grab 20 minutes to get another coat of paint on the pump bits ive been color coding to the car, one more light rub and another coat of gloss should do it now, pretty pleased with how well theyve turned out.
speaking of pumps though, how easy should it be to turn the shaft? i cant turn it with my hand and am now worried its rusted inside, would be annoying to have to take it to pieces again to clean up the internals.




also some good news, ive managed to sort out a pair of carbon kevlar bucket seats for a bit of a bargain price cant wait to get them sorted

[ozonehostile]

no pictures today, but started stripping my new gti rear beam ready to go on, finished all my painting, started re-assembling the 11mm pump and best of all, bough a pair of racetech carbon/kevlar bucket seats and frames for the mighty fine price of £120

[Piggy]

have you checked internals of the 11mm RE concern over not being able to turn it??

[Ben]

How do people get bargains like that?! I'm never that lucky!

As for turning a pump, you'll need the pulley on. They are hard to turn but you should be able to do it by hand, and it will 'notch' round it won't just spin. Your pump will be fine it won't have rusted that quick after a rebuild!

[ozonehostile]

have you checked internals of the 11mm RE concern over not being able to turn it??

not yet mate, im hopeful that it might be fine as when i turn it upsidedown theres occasionally a dribble of clean diesel coming out, but still, i might just have a quick look just to make sure

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How do people get bargains like that?! I'm never that lucky!

As for turning a pump, you'll need the pulley on. They are hard to turn but you should be able to do it by hand, and it will 'notch' round it won't just spin. Your pump will be fine it won't have rusted that quick after a rebuild!

I know a few people with rally cars, FIA rules on safety equipment change every couple of years so when these changes happen, things like seats and fire extinguisher systems all have to be updated for new ones.
these seats im getting are only 3 years old and only done 3 or 4 rallies

there might be some more coming u for sale soon, if they do il buy them aswel and sell them on through here

[Just Sean]

You should do that with everything! Id love some awesome buckets!

[ozonehostile]

You should do that with everything! Id love some awesome buckets!

ive got a shipping container full of random rally bits, really ought to sort through it to see exactly whats in there and start selling it. i know theres an oil catch tank, dry sump resevoir, loads of different rate springs for coilovers, mitsubishi lancer parts, impreza parts, bumpers and shit loads more

[ozonehostile]

Got fed up of trying to get hold of people to repair my dented roof so attempted it myself. turned out ok, the line of the roof is straight again at least just got a few high points but they can wait to be sorted properly by a body shop next month after ive been paid. Also, an appointment has been made for the new screen to be fitted (£91.70 inc vat and fitting) finally!!!!




got some other stuff sorted today like making up a plexiglass gauge surround, did a proper precise job getting all the distances between holes equal and the same and equally spaced from the edge. finishing the surround is going to have to wait until monday as annoyingly i dont have a 55mm hole saw and the tool shop is closed on the weekend. when the surround is finished itl be sprayed white to blend in with my newly color coded centre console



oh, forgot to mention, got an oil cooler a couple of days ago

[ozonehostile]

very pleased with how these turned out

[Tom]

Lookin good bud!

[ozonehostile]

thanks mate, plan to get the new bonnet and pins mounted in the morning, finish wiring the gauges, sort the intermittent indicator problem with the rear light conversion then re-assemble everything ready to drive on wednesday once the screens done

[Tom]

Good man! Excited to start driving it again?! I need to get my windscreen seal sorted on mine, pretty sure its leaking

[ozonehostile]

yeah i cant wait, got all these new gauges to look at now haha

[Tom]

We do like gauges!!

[ozonehostile]

didnt get anything done on the car today as i planned, going to have to wait for tomorrow after work.
I did however spend the day getting some new lights for my workshop

[Harky]

Looking forward to seeing you get this on the road again, and more importantly, rolling road! Bet you can't wait.

And lights, frig me do you think you got enough! No excuse for not working right through the night with those things