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Ive had this issue. There are two types, fine thread and fat thread. If you put the wrong bolt in the wrong one then it breaks the captive nut. I took a small belt sanding tool and cut a hole so i could get a spanner in to hold the nut.
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Must be some pretty serious vibration. I used the blue stuff after regular issues with the cycle wings on my kit-car coming loose and it was job jobbed. It was used every day too so clocked up a fair mileage over time.
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(15-12-2016, 12:24 PM)Paul Baldwin Wrote: Must be some pretty serious vibration. I used the blue stuff after regular issues with the cycle wings on my kit-car coming loose and it was job jobbed. It was used every day too so clocked up a fair mileage over time. Im pretty much static. Dont know if oil damages it over time as my brethers down there but do degrease everything before applicating
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(14-12-2016, 09:07 AM)Eeyore Wrote: Ive had this issue. There are two types, fine thread and fat thread. If you put the wrong bolt in the wrong one then it breaks the captive nut. I took a small belt sanding tool and cut a hole so i could get a spanner in to hold the nut.
This, it's a pita
When had a spare subframe welded then went fit assuming same bolts then wasn't the case.
Real nonsense then trying to find right bolts.
Hopefully yours will stay put this time
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Think im gonna whip out what ive got and weld them up at work. Might be able to find somthing high tensile to replace it with but means going corse thread instead.
Ordered the powerflex pbush and front bush today as everyones recomending them so much and gonna grab two new wishbones too.
Tightened the bolt up and its still holding well but the bearings most deffinatley have developed some mild play now so looks like this will be the first job of the new year for me
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Ok... so officially glad i listened for once. New bushes have arrived and look the bee's knees. Just gotta source some wishbones and ball joints now
While im looking for wishbones is there any better then standard versions? Or any mods to do such as seem weld or somthing daft. Just a thought if im building another set up
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Im sure someone posted a cheap set where the shaft had snapped in the pbush. Can you not rebush your current ones? or not time to take the car off the road?
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(22-12-2016, 09:57 PM)Eeyore Wrote: Im sure someone posted a cheap set where the shaft had snapped in the pbush. Can you not rebush your current ones? or not time to take the car off the road? Tbh im just unable to take the car off the road atm and think im gonna struggle to remove the front bearing housing as looked pretty well rusted in the last time
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Get yourself some TRW ones from Misterauto (got a pair for £75 I think, closest ones youll get to Peugeot own stuff/quality but at least half the price)
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Meyle HD wishbones are generally considered to be the best quality out there other than genuine, but some older sets did suffer with quality issues but they've been rectified now.
I used a set of genuine wishbones on my 6 and rebushed those
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Meyle HD all the way but they are too good to strip to put your bushes in.
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(22-12-2016, 09:57 PM)Eeyore Wrote: Im sure someone posted a cheap set where the shaft had snapped in the pbush. Can you not rebush your current ones? or not time to take the car off the road?
That was me haha
Can't remember where they were from, but one of the big motorfactors - ECP, GSF ..etc
Were not mega cheap ebay items
Best bet is a set of gen pug items that have knackered bushes - pop a thread up see if anyone has any spare
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Meyle hd p bushes scare me now was a pretty arse clenching momment when that went [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY] think i may have sourced some originals. Look pretty rusty so shall have to bin them to my mate to sand blast.
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I use motoquip ones on mine bastard things to get holf of but never given me an issue not once
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(23-12-2016, 02:21 PM)bashbarnard Wrote: I use motoquip ones on mine bastard things to get holf of but never given me an issue not once
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I realise there are many running meyle hd who dont have issues... But theres quite a number of stories (just via this forum) I have heard of them failing.
Yet my "rubbish" cheap nasty powerflex bushes have done 30k miles nearly
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(23-12-2016, 04:30 PM)Piggy Wrote: I realise there are many running meyle hd who dont have issues... But theres quite a number of stories (just via this forum) I have heard of them failing.
Yet my "rubbish" cheap nasty powerflex bushes have done 30k miles nearly Just comes down to how you drive i guess. I drive aggressive like a plank so the pflex's hopefully should be spot on. Pretty happy with how girthy the pbush is. Was slightly worried to it being ali bodied but looking how thick they are in person my concerns there are gone
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(23-12-2016, 04:30 PM)Piggy Wrote: I realise there are many running meyle hd who dont have issues... But theres quite a number of stories (just via this forum) I have heard of them failing.
Yet my "rubbish" cheap nasty powerflex bushes have done 30k miles nearly
This
I snapped p bushes on both sides within a year iirc
Not the pin, but the sheet metal that bolts to subframe
However in fairness I got my money back, unlike cheap motor factors.
Maybe a bad batch?
I now run oem arms with power flex bushes and lemforder ball joints.
Zero issues since
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(23-12-2016, 07:58 PM)zx_volcane Wrote: (23-12-2016, 04:30 PM)Piggy Wrote: I realise there are many running meyle hd who dont have issues... But theres quite a number of stories (just via this forum) I have heard of them failing.
Yet my "rubbish" cheap nasty powerflex bushes have done 30k miles nearly
This
I snapped p bushes on both sides within a year iirc
Not the pin, but the sheet metal that bolts to subframe
However in fairness I got my money back, unlike cheap motor factors.
Maybe a bad batch?
I now run oem arms with power flex bushes and lemforder ball joints.
Zero issues since
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(23-12-2016, 08:14 PM)dr_jekyll Wrote: Are lemforder considered better ball joints? Seem to go through two pairs a year
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Yes but expensive
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(23-12-2016, 08:17 PM)zx_volcane Wrote: (23-12-2016, 08:14 PM)dr_jekyll Wrote: Are lemforder considered better ball joints? Seem to go through two pairs a year
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i use cheap motaquip balljoints and they're fine.
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I fitted QH ball joints to my wishbones when they were rebuilt originally with the pflex ones... Still solid as a rock
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I seriously dont know how i just chew everything out. Bad roads? Poor setup? Over aggresive? Nothing seems to last a long duration on my car
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More than likley
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(23-12-2016, 09:25 PM)dr_jekyll Wrote: I seriously dont know how i just chew everything out. Bad roads? Poor setup? Over aggresive? Nothing seems to last a long duration on my car
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cause you run everything so low, and every component is way out of its comfort zone.
maybe look into a way of altering the angle of your dangles - so components are not at extremes and will be happy where you want them.
be the same issue as having stock length arb when low - the balljoints are stressed to beyond belief and fail quickly.
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doesn't affect droplinks anywhere near as much as you might think due to the angle they are attached to the strut and arb, its only when steering do they go away from 90 degrees, the arb rotates in its bushes so height doesn't matter at all in regards to any preload either.
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Hmm wishbone wise they sit straight across the board. Drive shafts face up which isnt so great.
Dont tend to kill many arb links but have considered rosejointed ones. If i can source the left/right hand threaded turnbuckles ive got everything else at work to make them so wouldnt cost a bomb.
In regards to drive shafts the drivers shaft causes me lots of issues. If i load the car into a tight left hander you feel the cv joint "popping". Ive put this down to a continueing falling top engine mount tho still think im clutching at straws there. Engine mount wise im on a bbm gearbox mount, powerflex old style lower and stock top as the bbm one failed. The stock top always collapses and tears and its currently going through the motions again. When it compresses it drops in around 15mm. This is pretty much why i want the vibra mounts
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Hmmm I guess you could raise it a bit.
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