Phase 1 black dturbo

[sam]

Bet your glad its done though, despite the cold

Yeah apart from the cold im glad im finally doing something that I want just wush the snow would go away

Like where this is going, looks the part too.

The brakes, what are they from? A 307?

I'm interested in upgrading my brakes soon but I'm on a tight budget, so I suspect 283s will be the way to go. Do the 302s fit behind Cyclones?

Cheers dude its going quickly conpaeed to my 5 door, yeah I think there off a 307 xsi or the 110 hdi's

Not sure tbh they might with spacers but dont hold me to that as I went straight to 16' so really wouldnt no, best person to talk to is chris who I get them off and there a hell of alot better than the 283's feels like your face is coming off haha

[Matt]

With 20mm spacing they do

[sam]

Well got all the bits for the engine back to gether and the fmic to be plumbed in, also have a random lime green bonnet now liked as I like to be different and I miss my camo bonnet so the other bonnet I have in the garage I have a really cool idea which I will be told later on in the year, so hopefully monday the pug will be fibally on the road

[sam]

Had a good day today rang up a garage that specialise in diesel tuning and hes done what I want to a 306 dt before, so he said theres no point in 11mm pumps as there boggy and they waste abit to much fuel so recommend a 10mm pump with so extra "special" aftermarket bits which he will build he said I could have a dt reviving to around 6.5k without the fuel cutting out as thats a big problem with the bosch pump. Like everything theres always a but, I have to look into a uprated cam as it kept on snapping on hard acceleration :/ and bigger injectors. Soo I could run a gt35 hybrid and run it to the pumps limit but have to have forged rods and pistons soo hopefully next month im going to pop down there and speak to him to see what he does to them and how much itll cost sooo fingers crossed ill hopefully start building a new engine in the summer

[ozonehostile]

Had a good day today rang up a garahe that specialise in diesel tuning and hes done what I want to a 306 dt before, so he said theres no point in 11mm pumps as there boggy and they waste abit to much fuel so recommend a 10mm pump with so extra "special" aftermarket bits which he will build he said I could have a dt reviing to around 6.5k without the fuel cutting out as thats a big problem with the bosch pump. Like everything theres a but, I have to look into a uprated cam as it kept on snapping :/ and bigger injectors. Soo I could run a gt35 hybrid and run it to the pumps limit but have to have forged rods and pistons soo hopefullynext month im going to pop dow n there and speak to him to see what he does to them and how much itll cost sooo finhers crossed ill hopefully start building a new engine in the summer

keep us updated

[sam]

Will do really looking forward to speaking to him amd seeing what he has to offer hopefully not to expensive hard bit is going to be the cam and injectors he said look into the US market

[ozonehostile]

yeah, theres a us company darren used for bigger injectors. doubt hel part with that little secret though.....research time lol

[sam]

yeah, theres a us company darren used for bigger injectors. doubt hel part with that little secret though.....research time lol

Dont blame him to be honest, id do the same haha yep good old prouing the web

[ozonehostile]

if you do find out more, let me in on it yeah

[strictly_perv]

Would you really need cams and injectors? As far as I'm aware only Darren has gone for a different cam. Stock injectors have never been an issue either. You might want to look into strengthening the head some how as when Darren had his at peak it dropped a pre-cup due to the heat ect.

[Pugmarshall]

As Max says, I'd put the money you'd spend on a cam and injectors elsewhere. Cam isn't very high up the list of restrictions and there's no point in putting bigger/better injectors in if the pump can't supply the fuel in the first place...

The head would also be my main concern tbh, opening and ceramic coating the obvious bits.

[sam]

Still looking up on it as I speak chaps been looking into stronger valves, valve springs, colets, polish and porting, lifter etc he recomended them to for the power I really want, as said only going buy what he said. Do apr do head bolts for dt's as I cant find any? Colin from pug performance said give the 1.6 205 gti head bolts ago......

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if you do find out more, let me in on it yeah

Will do bud

[sam]

Doesnt look like the turbo is going to be on for the dyno day so david is leting me borrow his gt15 for the tine beeing until I gett the turbo finished

[Just Sean]

Aww man that sucks! Just means you'll have to organise another one!! For 6 months time! X

[sam]

Yep going to sort out another one in july time I reacon

[Just Sean]

Do it inaugust after show season

[darrenjlobb]

I wouldnt bother with touching the cam unless you have serious plans, I found it made no difference at all to airflow until u were trying to move alot of air over 4500rpm

As for injectors, I just bought nozzles that were modified by a company over seas (EDM'ed) for more flow, and i just fitted them / pop tested them to fit my exsisting bodies...Obviously on the M-TDI this is critical, I also had a set of chronic nozzles for my XUD, but sadly only ran them for a few miles due to the engine failing in other ways That said, i still think its a good plan....the problem with stock nozzles on a VE putting tonnes of fuel in, is it starts to build chronic HP line pressure, which massively increases the strain on the plunger, and therefore the timing gear, IE totally ruining the dynamic timing, whereas with big naughty nozzles, not only can you get more fuel in faster, but the pump remains at very much oem injection pressures, which makes for much better running power...

[sam]

Better Idea that tbh dude,

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I wouldnt bother with touching the cam unless you have serious plans, I found it made no difference at all to airflow until u were trying to move alot of air over 4500rpm

As for injectors, I just bought nozzles that were modified by a company over seas (EDM'ed) for more flow, and i just fitted them / pop tested them to fit my exsisting bodies...Obviously on the M-TDI this is critical, I also had a set of chronic nozzles for my XUD, but sadly only ran them for a few miles due to the engine failing in other ways That said, i still think its a good plan....the problem with stock nozzles on a VE putting tonnes of fuel in, is it starts to build chronic HP line pressure, which massively increases the strain on the plunger, and therefore the timing gear, IE totally ruining the dynamic timing, whereas with big naughty nozzles, not only can you get more fuel in faster, but the pump remains at very much oem injection pressures, which makes for much better running power...

Ahhh nice one darren cheers for the info so really no point in a bigger cam then just concentrate of head internals and injectors?

[sam]

Good news people ill hopefully be driving the pug by tonight with the new turbo on all ready for the second I can not wait its been 3 weeks since I last drove it illl be booooosting very soon

[Poodle]

Great work man, cant wait to take a ride in this.

[sam]

I might let you drive it if you want

[ginge191]

your 35s11 turbo is a TD04, right?

[sam]

Nope a ko3 dude of a iveco I no thees the 35s12which is closer to a tdo4 but the spool later the 35s11 should be on full boost at 2200 rpm

[ginge191]

Nice - i know on my K03 i'd be full boost by near enough 2k - used to love that, but lack of puff at top end used to frustrate me somewhat.

[sam]

Yeah itll run out of puff at around 4500rpm I think good thing about the ko3 the standered hdi/dt oil feed and rrturn just bot on

[ginge191]

yep; took a bit of persuading as i remember, but like said, it's an underated turbo for sure; what you running it at anywho?

[Poodle]

O Rly?! Epic winning.

Been trying to find something like that for the HDi, preferably something a bit "new tech" if you know what i mean, td04s are a bit agricultural for our purposes.

[sam]

yep; took a bit of persuading as i remember, but like said, it's an underated turbo for sure; what you running it at anywho?

I dont no yet currently colting the turbo the turbo to a dumby head hopefully around 24/25 psi

O Rly?! Epic winning.

Been trying to find something like that for the HDi, preferably something a bit "new tech" if you know what i mean, td04s are a bit agricultural for our purposes.

Yeah man haha I was going tdo4 but to common now wanted different haha get your hdi to spool a t88

[sam]

Hopefully tomorrow will go to plan and the turbo will be on and make some decent figures on saturdayand also needs a good clean

[Ricky]

I bet your even more nervous about the dyno just 1 day after fitting, I drove well slow for the first week just to make sure it was running ok first!