So now I think I understand...

[InkedMuttley]

if there was a "right way/time to do it some fcuker would write it in a book and make a gazillion quid mate . . . . . .that's the thing about relationships they are all so unique, you really have to weigh it all up yourself, i know what you mean about the friendzone thing though, as i'm kinda in a similar situation . . . . . (not going into that here though) . . . .you'll know when the time is right . .don't fcuking wimp out though . . . . . . it's worse i know when you actually really like a girl as well so you might stand to lose her friendship if your affections aren't returned . . . .. .
just go for it mate, life is too short to hang around, just think how you'd feel if someone else took her from under your nose . .
all the best . . .

Thanks mate I do know if someone else got the girl it would destroy me...I don't actually believe in love to be honest, but this one I dunno there's something special and her ex-fiancee I do know was her best friend to start with but in the past I've not said anything to sort of gauge the situation if that makes sense and just when I'm ready to make a move I'll look on facebook or something and see the dreaded words "Such and such is in a relationship with Joe Bloggs" but with her I honestly don't know how I'd handle it