Cully's spare Gti6 engine

[Dum-Dum]

So is it going back with a standard crank or 2.1/2.2 diesel ones for some extra capacity?

[Niall]

Cully will you be replacing the core plugs? I did mine as a precaution and all were ok except one for some reason. For the sake of £1 each, its worth it so it doesn't piss coolant all down your engine bay a few months after you fit it lol

[cully]

So is it going back with a standard crank or 2.1/2.2 diesel ones for some extra capacity?

havnt thought on it .....

Cully will you be replacing the core plugs? I did mine as a precaution and all were ok except one for some reason. For the sake of £1 each, its worth it so it doesn't piss coolant all down your engine bay a few months after you fit it lol

nope theey cleened up ok so am going to give them a mis

tempted to get the crank n rods ballanced though

[Niall]

Mine looked ok on the outside but one wasn't on the inside. Will see if i still have it for a photo.

[Dum-Dum]

So is it going back with a standard crank or 2.1/2.2 diesel ones for some extra capacity?

havnt thought on it .....

2.2 Crank, S16 rods and a couple of mm skimmed of the top of the block would all bolt together nicely.

[cully]

So is it going back with a standard crank or 2.1/2.2 diesel ones for some extra capacity?

havnt thought on it .....

2.2 Crank, S16 rods and a couple of mm skimmed of the top of the block would all bolt together nicely.

???? whats the throw on a 2.2 crank?
the 6 is 86mm x 86mm a square engine thats why it wants to rev

i dont see how changing the stroke increases the capacity on a 6 engine without addig extra block hight,surely boreing the block would ad extra capacity

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DW12 is 85.00 x 96.00

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s16 uses the same rods as the 6 from what i can see

[Dum-Dum]

Whats the throw on a 2.2 crank?
the 6 is 86mm x 86mm a square engine thats why it wants to rev

i dont see how changing the stroke increases the capacity on a 6 engine without addig extra block hight,surely boreing the block would ad extra capacity


DW12 is 85.00 x 96.00


s16 uses the same rods as the 6 from what i can see

As you've seen the throw is 96mm, an extra 10mm. The GTi6 rods are 158mm center to center and the S16/Mi16 are 152mm center to center giving you the 5mm difference you need. The small end on both is 22mm and the big ends are both 53.7mm

[cully]

just had an email for my bearing supplyer
good prices!

Glyco main bearings H1057/5 £23.50
big end bearings 01-4298/4 £18.00
thrust washer A188/4 £9.95


ACL Duraglide main bearings 5M1677 £30.25
Race series big end bearings 4B7700H £70.50

Piston Rings there are two types
1.5/1.5/3.0 which would be £64.95
1.5/1.75/3.0 £55.00

Shipping would be £8.50

All prices are inc vat

[Niall]

Not bad. you going to fit the rings your self?

[cully]

Not bad. you going to fit the rings your self?

yes dont see why not
can practice with the old ones im taking off

[Niall]

Oh thats a fun game!

[cully]

took the old piston rings off no problems!
measured them and they are 1.5/1.5/3mm

decided to check the big end bearings with a micrometer could only get an imperial one so had to convert the reading!

   

the micrometer is a 1" to 2" size

so the reading is
1.9...50+18 = 1.968" which works out to 49.987mm =standard bearings

[cully]

Have ordered my main bearings, big end, thrust washers and ring sets

Paypal account looks real sad now

have been going mad at cleaning stuff the box of clean is getting bigger

   

have also painted the Block Red!

   

Mmmmmmm

   

[Connor]

Think I have to stop off on the way home sunday

[welshpug]

S16 used the same block and crank, however a 152mm conrod with taller pistons, bushed small end and circlip located gudgeon pin, a rather heavy piston but usefully meaty valve cutouts.

gti6 uses 158mm conrods and a shrink fit gudgeon pin, and rather poor valve cutouts and thin piston crowns, a whole 1mm can be added however, to allow for cams like PT81's to be timed up correctly and safely, without this, and a thicker gasket if the head has been skimmed, I wouldn't even think about changing the cams.

[cully]

peugeot phoned the head gasket was in so have picked that up,
also the bottom end ACL bearings ,rings and thrusts are in so will pick them up tommorow

[cully]

now have all the bearings, headgasket,seals in my hot sticky hands
so soon will be building

   

[cully]

collecting info on torque settings
info as a PDF


  torques.pdf (Size: 102.74 KB / Downloads: 2)

some of the torque settings are followed by an angle so i made myself a protractor to fit over the 1/2 torque wrench
use a fixed point on the block and turn the wrench the number of degrees required

   

[welshpug]

I bought an angle gauge instead.

[Niall]

Yeah Cully mine was £4 from Amazon. Hardly breaking the bank you tight northerner....oh hold on!
Ill bring mine down on Sunday if you like? Hoping i won't need it for a while!

[darrenjlobb]

Ive got one of the angle things, but never used it...i just do it in steps of 90, its not exactly hard to follow 90 degrees, simply start, pick your finish point at right angles and follow to it, then add a 45 / 90 as required.

Looking good though, nothing like a proper engine rebuild

[Niall]

Looking good though, nothing like a proper engine rebuild

This! Ive actually found it really satisfying building mine up and turning it all over and it all works! Just need to get it running now

[cully]

Looking good though, nothing like a proper engine rebuild

lol
never done a OHC engine the last one i did was a BMC 1275 mini engine and box that was a pushrod engine this OHC is far easyer as ther is no tappit clearances

[devils_fuel]

Ive got one of the angle things, but never used it...i just do it in steps of 90, its not exactly hard to follow 90 degrees, simply start, pick your finish point at right angles and follow to it, then add a 45 / 90 as required.

This is what we did in the garage as all engines are torqued down when built-can't see pug farting around with angles etc when building them

[cully]

started rebuilding this today as the weathers been pants so havn't been able to work on the car so its in the garage today!

cleaned crank ready for instal

   

new ACL bearings and thrusts installed pre assembly lub

   

main caps fitted bearings with assembly lub

   

main caps being installed and torqued down
after each cap is installed the crank is turned to see if its free of pinched tight

   

all main caps installed and torqued down crank was still nice and free

   

starting to install the pistons and ACL Race big ends

   

all in

   

windage platew oil pump in

   

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oil pump drive and chain oil bath

   

as it stands tonight

   

[mikey b]

Looking good it's nice when it's out of the car and all clean

[Matt]

Should have 2.1....

[welshpug]

that would have meant £1200 on pistons and rods...

[jammapic]

I put ACLs in mine when we built it, also went for a set of ARP rod bolts too... Maybe something to think about?

[Piggy]

looking sweet cully