Popping out of Gear???

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Popping out of Gear???
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Need some help. Drove up to Warwickshire today but on way back 30 or so miles from home it's started popping out of 3rd Gear and I think it also popped out of 2nd once. It stays in for a while but just goes back into neutral when it feels like it. It may be partly down to the road surface but I can not be sure. Also seems to be a slight whining, gear box giving up? It's done 157k and I had the clutch replaced end of last year. Any ideas folks Huh
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#2
could well be worn linkages mate, that would be my guess.
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#3
Well process of elimination I suppose rather spend money on linkage than another gear box + labour.
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Have you checked the gearbox oil?
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Linkages and oil would be my first shot, then it's probably new gearbox time :/
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How do you check oil? It was changed same time as Clutch I believe.
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#7
Your gear oil should be fine ari your clutch was only done couple of months ago. But worth trying linkages I think.
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#8
Linkages won't be causing whinning though surely? It is quite oily around the gear box so could be leaking? I can't really see to look.
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#9
Ah right I didn't read your first comment properly. I wouldn't have thought so. But oily gearbox doesn't sound good mate Confused
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#10
There is a plug on the side which is used to check level.
Or alternatively, Drain the oil and refill with the right amount of fresh oil
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#11
should be 1.9l of oil in the box so if less than that comes out you have found your problem
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#12
Right ok might need some help doing that lol never touched a gear box before. I assume I can just use tranmission fluid from halfords, no different to any other trans fluid all the same so I've been told in the past? Bought linkages so that is something I won't need to worry about again at least.

Edit: as I thought the gear box oil wasn't changed when clutch was done so the seals won't have been done either Sad
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#13
Maybe gearbox seals mate. Also there are lots of gearbox oil grades like engine oil so make sure you get the correct one if you do.
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Use proper Total/Esso BV 75W80 gear oil from Peugeot - BE gearboxes are quite fussy about oil.
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(20-05-2014, 08:55 AM)powerandtorque Wrote: Use proper Total/Esso BV 75W80 gear oil from Peugeot - BE gearboxes are quite fussy about oil.

I have used 10/40 gear oil in all my gearboxes for the last 7 years and never had any issues
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O_o


I certainly would not recommend that!
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#17
All I'm saying is any suitable gearbox will be fine in my experience, no point really using Oem oil unless you really want to
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Given that the OE oil from Peugeot is roughly the same price as Halfords stuff on trade, let alone retail, why wouldn't you use the correct stuff?
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(20-05-2014, 09:24 AM)Sambarker Wrote:
(20-05-2014, 08:55 AM)powerandtorque Wrote: Use proper Total/Esso BV 75W80 gear oil from Peugeot - BE gearboxes are quite fussy about oil.

I have used 10/40 gear oil in all my gearboxes for the last 7 years and never had any issues

that is some shockingly bad advice from a member that should know better, these gearboxes NEED the correct Peugeot oil!
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I gotta be honest I used 75 80 from factors and never had no problems in 100k..
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#21
Well this old one, If you look at the old data you sometimes see 10/40 recommended and a gearbox I had from a so called gearbox reconditioner's said the same or the warranty would be invalid, But if you do use 10/40 the box will not last having seen the remains when people do, The old XY engine's are OK as the box is in the sump like a Mini.
Popping out of gear will either be box bearings or torque bush, Linkages just tend to fall off as the std ones cannot be adjusted
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(20-05-2014, 12:58 PM)HDi--Power Wrote:
(20-05-2014, 09:24 AM)Sambarker Wrote:
(20-05-2014, 08:55 AM)powerandtorque Wrote: Use proper Total/Esso BV 75W80 gear oil from Peugeot - BE gearboxes are quite fussy about oil.

I have used 10/40 gear oil in all my gearboxes for the last 7 years and never had any issues

that is some shockingly bad advice from a member that should know better, these gearboxes NEED the correct Peugeot oil!

It wasn't advice, just my own experience.
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(19-05-2014, 09:45 PM)Ari Wrote: Right ok might need some help doing that lol never touched a gear box before. I assume I can just use tranmission fluid from halfords, no different to any other trans fluid all the same so I've been told in the past? Bought linkages so that is something I won't need to worry about again at least.

Edit: as I thought the gear box oil wasn't changed when clutch was done so the seals won't have been done either Sad

So they changed the clutch without dropping the 'box oil...? Interesting... Hmm
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(20-05-2014, 07:39 PM)Poodle Wrote:
(19-05-2014, 09:45 PM)Ari Wrote: Right ok might need some help doing that lol never touched a gear box before. I assume I can just use tranmission fluid from halfords, no different to any other trans fluid all the same so I've been told in the past? Bought linkages so that is something I won't need to worry about again at least.

Edit: as I thought the gear box oil wasn't changed when clutch was done so the seals won't have been done either Sad

So they changed the clutch without dropping the 'box oil...? Interesting... Hmm

They just put the old stuff back in id say, pretty common practise unfortunately
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#25
When I had the clutch done by Pug on my '6 they changed the oil seals etc. I took the hdi to a garage my mate worked at along with his wife and father in law just to save 120 quid or so... Kind of wish I'd just taken it to Pug now. The whinning is pretty horrendous so I'd just as we'll replace it. I was considering selling the car as spares but I'd only end up buying something else on the cheap or wait ages for something better.
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#26
Doesn't pop out of 3rd anymore or hasn't last few days of driving. it whines a little bit so I might just keep driving it for now, if It lets go then i'll just worry about it then.
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