Brakes for 106 track car

[Nathan1305]

Hi guys so end of febuary I will be purchasing a nice shiny referbed GTi beam off Stef205. I'll be looking to upgrade the braking system while I'm changing the beam. I was thinking of gti6 brakes as its a common mod for 106's and reasonably cheap. So my question is what will I need to do this so far I can think of:

283mm rotors
6' callipers 
Calliper bolts
Pads
Rear callipers
Rear rotors
And possibly a 6' master cylinder?
Brake fluid

Would that be all I'll need to convert it 

[Connor]

Discs, we're not american, well you lot aint

[swampy]

Stay with266 far lighter and work just aswell on the106

May aswell fit braided lines of your going to all that extent

[Nathan1305]

Discs, we're not american, well you lot aint

Sorry  so will that be all I'll need? 

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Stay with266 far lighter and work just aswell on the106

May aswell fit braided lines of your going to all that extent

Is that HDi size brakes?

[allanallen]

Standard are 247mm. Make sure everything's in good order and fit some brembo discs, decent pads (I like mintex) and fluid.
Leave the boat anchor gti6 brakes on the 306

[Piggy]

If you want 283s but dont want as much weight and a more modern design of caliper, get 206 gti180 bosch calipers as they are loads lighter and a little smaller.

266 calipers and discs though will be loads cheaper and with decent pads stop that light little motor quick enough.

I got a pair of 266calipers you can have for £20delivered

[procta]

good quality pads and discs

[MY95]

266mm easily enough for most 106's due to weight
As Piggy said 247s are standard on most 106's
283mm pointless in my opinion as more money and much more weight than the 266s which are ideal really... go 266!

[Nathan1305]

If you want 283s but dont want as much weight and a more modern design of caliper, get 206 gti180 bosch calipers as they are loads lighter and a little smaller.

266 calipers and discs though will be loads cheaper and with decent pads stop that light little motor quick enough.

I got a pair of 266calipers you can have for £20delivered

I'll keep that in mind  if Ian doesn't have any then I'll have those off you, do you know if all rear disks and callipers are the same size on 106's and 306's? Because I'll need some for the new rear beam

[allanallen]

If you want 283s but dont want as much weight and a more modern design of caliper, get 206 gti180 bosch calipers as they are loads lighter and a little smaller.

266 calipers and discs though will be loads cheaper and with decent pads stop that light little motor quick enough.

I got a pair of 266calipers you can have for £20delivered

Not sure the gti180 brakes are loads lighter?  I actually thought they were heavier, the discs certainly are!

[Nathan1305]

Found these Brembo disks  seem really cheap hoping there real. Just need to source some rear callipers 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0752047428 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0568126538 

[procta]

Found these Brembo disks  seem really cheap hoping there real. Just need to source some rear callipers 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0752047428 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0568126538 

I run those on my rover metro, and they are ok, I am changing the pads to yellow stuff as they work really well for the 306

[Nathan1305]

Found these Brembo disks  seem really cheap hoping there real. Just need to source some rear callipers 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0752047428 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0568126538 

I run those on my rover metro, and they are ok, I am changing the pads to yellow stuff as they work really well for the 306

Good to know they will be okay  I'm undecided on what pads to use 

[procta]

Found these Brembo disks  seem really cheap hoping there real. Just need to source some rear callipers 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0752047428 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0568126538 

I run those on my rover metro, and they are ok, I am changing the pads to yellow stuff as they work really well for the 306

Good to know they will be okay  I'm undecided on what pads to use 

with yours been a track car you maybe wanting to ask some of the lads on here that run serious power, as you will be putting this car through some stick on a track.
with me pulling some daft power with the metro the brembos stop the car ok, but that's with out giving it some and motorway driving. I am not sure how close the metro is to your little pocket rocket, but I can see it been bloody close.

[Nathan1305]

Found these Brembo disks  seem really cheap hoping there real. Just need to source some rear callipers 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0752047428 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0568126538 

I run those on my rover metro, and they are ok, I am changing the pads to yellow stuff as they work really well for the 306

Good to know they will be okay  I'm undecided on what pads to use 

with yours been a track car you maybe wanting to ask some of the lads on here that run serious power, as you will be putting this car through some stick on a track.
with me pulling some daft power with the metro the brembos stop the car ok, but that's with out giving it some and motorway driving. I am not sure how close the metro is to your little pocket rocket, but I can see it been bloody close.

I'm thinking of trying some standard mintex pads and seeing how they do for my first session 

[Anton]

As Allan has said i'm pretty sure 206 gti brakes aren't lighter. The discs are a lot heavier as they are thicker, 22mm v 26mm.

Personally I think you should get 266mm with decent pads, should be more than adequate.

[allanallen]

I'd avoid ebc pads. I'd be fitting mintex 1155s or ferodo ds3000, they're at the cheaper end of circuit pads and aren't too harsh on discs.

Mintex f4rs and CL rc's are very good pads, much more expensive and destroy discs though. Also cover your car in dust/metal etc!

[Eeyore]

Found these Brembo disks  seem really cheap hoping there real. Just need to source some rear callipers 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0752047428 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0568126538 

I run those on my rover metro, and they are ok, I am changing the pads to yellow stuff as they work really well for the 306

Good to know they will be okay  I'm undecided on what pads to use 

with yours been a track car you maybe wanting to ask some of the lads on here that run serious power.

266mm standard Discs and green stuff pads with braided lines

[Nathan1305]

Found these Brembo disks  seem really cheap hoping there real. Just need to source some rear callipers 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0752047428 

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0568126538 

I run those on my rover metro, and they are ok, I am changing the pads to yellow stuff as they work really well for the 306

Good to know they will be okay  I'm undecided on what pads to use 

with yours been a track car you maybe wanting to ask some of the lads on here that run serious power.

266mm standard Discs and green stuff pads with braided lines

Sounds like a good combo  

[Poodle]

Another vote for mintex here, different league compared to ebc stuff.

[welshpug]

still on standard engine?

std discs will do tbh.

[Nathan1305]

Yeah still on the 1.6 8v just going to get those brembos as they are cheap and some mintex pads

[procta]

Yeah still on the 1.6 8v just going to get those brembos as they are cheap and some mintex pads

good as anything.

[swampy]

Yeah still on the 1.6 8v just going to get those brembos as they are cheap and some mintex pads

Good call!
Far better than anything ebc offer I hate there pad compounds!

Get the halfords performace fluid very good for the money and drop me a PM ref the braided lines

[Piggy]

Dont get standard mintex pads...
If standard type, go bosch or brembo.
If track type, then Ferrodo 2500s

[Nathan1305]

Thanks guys  I'm pretty happy with the choice

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Dont get standard mintex pads...
If standard type, go bosch or brembo.
If track type, then Ferrodo 2500s

I'll have a look for those pads

[Stef205]

i run standard mintex pads on my 4 pots no issues on mine.

[Nathan1305]

i run standard mintex pads on my 4 pots no issues on mine.

Yeah I'm just going to go for standard to be honest. I know you get what you pay for with pads but I just need some reasonably good ones to get used to how the car is on track

[Piggy]

I'm killing my mintex as it is on the road hence my comment.
I'm sure the 4pots dont need to work as hard mind

[Stef205]

i run standard mintex pads on my 4 pots no issues on mine.

Yeah I'm just going to go for standard to be honest. I know you get what you pay for with pads but I just need some reasonably good ones to get used to how the car is on track

Id also look into some brembo pads too, ive a friend using some on some 266's and they seem to with stand a fair bit.

I'm killing my mintex as it is on the road hence my comment.
I'm sure the 4pots dont need to work as hard mind

4 pots will create alot more heat as theres alot more pressure onto the disc. I used mintex on my gti6 calipers and i had no issues. Using cheap discs wont help as there heat process isnt as good as the better brands.