VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo)

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VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo)
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Hi, i have inspected an normally aspirated 306 phase 1 Pug. All seemed well i have laid down an 100 deposit. I am going to view again tomorrow and wondered where are the trouble spots, I know the rear axle can be suspect. Your opinions would be appreciated!

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There's one major trouble spot; the lack of a turbo...

Serious note; rear beam; check for knocks/creaksetc., leaking brake lines, clutch (handbrake on, pull in 1st gear untill it stalls/doesnt), smooth PAS, usual fluids, head gasket (check overflow tank for mayo/dirty water).

Also, cambelt, make sure it has a decent cambelt life on it - either done within the last 5 years or 50k. Some go by more miles/years, but i'd stick to this for confidence.
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(18-06-2013, 01:47 PM)ginge191 Wrote: There's one major trouble spot; the lack of a turbo...

Serious note; rear beam; check for knocks/creaksetc., leaking brake lines, clutch (handbrake on, pull in 1st gear untill it stalls/doesnt), smooth PAS, usual fluids, head gasket (check overflow tank for mayo/dirty water).

Also, cambelt, make sure it has a decent cambelt life on it - either done within the last 5 years or 50k. Some go by more miles/years, but i'd stick to this for confidence.

The manufactures white writing was still vivid on belt, so i can take this as green that it is under 3 years, is time/miles the only count on when to change? I didnt experience any knocks when turning roundabouts etc. I will try the stalling technique but may feel suicidal intentionally stalling the old beast! The engine cranks first time asking as for levels i will double check them all. Guy seems genuine enough, cars done 190 000miles may flush the engine oil out but we shall see tomorrow!
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I wouldn't guarantee with the belt by visually seeing writing on it; it's hard to tell the amount a belt has perished; they're made NOT to perish. I'd only go with paperwork myself.

How much are you looking at paying for this by the way?>
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(18-06-2013, 02:08 PM)ginge191 Wrote: I wouldn't guarantee with the belt by visually seeing writing on it; it's hard to tell the amount a belt has perished; they're made NOT to perish. I'd only go with paperwork myself.

How much are you looking at paying for this by the way?>

Okay. Im looking no more than 500
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Check for arch liners.. chances are if it doesn't have them at the back there may be a rather large hole lurking
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(18-06-2013, 02:09 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:08 PM)ginge191 Wrote: I wouldn't guarantee with the belt by visually seeing writing on it; it's hard to tell the amount a belt has perished; they're made NOT to perish. I'd only go with paperwork myself.

How much are you looking at paying for this by the way?>

Okay. Im looking no more than 500

500 for a non turbo, phase 1 peugeot 306 on 190k! To be honest, i'd pay scrap value for it, 200-300 MAX.

think i paid £150 for my first phase 1
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(18-06-2013, 02:11 PM)ginge191 Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:09 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:08 PM)ginge191 Wrote: I wouldn't guarantee with the belt by visually seeing writing on it; it's hard to tell the amount a belt has perished; they're made NOT to perish. I'd only go with paperwork myself.

How much are you looking at paying for this by the way?>

Okay. Im looking no more than 500

500 for a non turbo, phase 1 peugeot 306 on 190k! To be honest, i'd pay scrap value for it, 200-300 MAX.

think i paid £150 for my first phase 1

It has a years Mot and tax till december. Also half a tank of diesel/veg oil LOL
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(18-06-2013, 02:14 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:11 PM)ginge191 Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:09 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote: Okay. Im looking no more than 500

500 for a non turbo, phase 1 peugeot 306 on 190k! To be honest, i'd pay scrap value for it, 200-300 MAX.

think i paid £150 for my first phase 1

It has a years Mot and tax till december. Also half a tank of diesel/veg oil LOL

Non turbo 306 running a NAD bosch? Sure?
check the fuel pump, it may be dangerous on VEG
Diablo Hdi Dturbo and 205 1.9 project - it lives!
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(18-06-2013, 02:17 PM)ginge191 Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:14 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:11 PM)ginge191 Wrote: 500 for a non turbo, phase 1 peugeot 306 on 190k! To be honest, i'd pay scrap value for it, 200-300 MAX.

think i paid £150 for my first phase 1

It has a years Mot and tax till december. Also half a tank of diesel/veg oil LOL

Non turbo 306 running a NAD bosch? Sure?
check the fuel pump, it may be dangerous on VEG

What effect on pump?

(18-06-2013, 02:25 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:17 PM)ginge191 Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 02:14 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote: It has a years Mot and tax till december. Also half a tank of diesel/veg oil LOL

Non turbo 306 running a NAD bosch? Sure?
check the fuel pump, it may be dangerous on VEG

What effect on pump?

Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?
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wrong pump running on veg can end up breaking down internal seals
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(18-06-2013, 03:26 PM)ginge191 Wrote: wrong pump running on veg can end up breaking down internal seals

Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?
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(18-06-2013, 03:41 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 03:26 PM)ginge191 Wrote: wrong pump running on veg can end up breaking down internal seals

Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?

Yeh. Pull up in the car, handbrake on, try to pull away, so power down and clutch up, and it "should" stall. If the handbrake lets go, the handbrake isn't fantastic, the clutch pedal is released all the way, then the clutch is shot.
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(18-06-2013, 03:43 PM)ginge191 Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 03:41 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 03:26 PM)ginge191 Wrote: wrong pump running on veg can end up breaking down internal seals

Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?

Yeh. Pull up in the car, handbrake on, try to pull away, so power down and clutch up, and it "should" stall. If the handbrake lets go, the handbrake isn't fantastic, the clutch pedal is released all the way, then the clutch is shot.

no bother will try that, thanks
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(18-06-2013, 03:55 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 03:43 PM)ginge191 Wrote:
(18-06-2013, 03:41 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote: Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?

Yeh. Pull up in the car, handbrake on, try to pull away, so power down and clutch up, and it "should" stall. If the handbrake lets go, the handbrake isn't fantastic, the clutch pedal is released all the way, then the clutch is shot.

no bother will try that, thanks

Where are the fuel filters located on these engines? Im used to Mercs plain play out
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sat almost central in the engine bay


a lot of 1.9nads came with bosch pumps...worth checking though...

and my mate recently got a phase3 1.9nad with a bosch pump, 12mths MOT and taxd and had only done 70k...for £650! in good nick too
Wishes for more power...
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(18-06-2013, 06:59 PM)Piggy Wrote: sat almost central in the engine bay


a lot of 1.9nads came with bosch pumps...worth checking though...

and my mate recently got a phase3 1.9nad with a bosch pump, 12mths MOT and taxd and had only done 70k...for £650! in good nick too

At what point were they made by Bosch. Im certain this is a lucas pump, and am i write in saying these can be tuned?
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unless you look at the pump, theres no way of telling.

if it dont say bosch on it...it aint a bosch!

you can increase fueling a bit....but if you want more power...and mpgs to be honest...get a turbo diesel 1.9
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(18-06-2013, 07:08 PM)Piggy Wrote: unless you look at the pump, theres no way of telling.

if it dont say bosch on it...it aint a bosch!

you can increase fueling a bit....but if you want more power...and mpgs to be honest...get a turbo diesel 1.9

Its a lucas, plastic cover which i suspect will hold the diesel. Now i will know if its been fed veggy oil
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