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VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
Hi, i have inspected an normally aspirated 306 phase 1 Pug. All seemed well i have laid down an 100 deposit. I am going to view again tomorrow and wondered where are the trouble spots, I know the rear axle can be suspect. Your opinions would be appreciated!
Thanks
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - ginge191 - 18-06-2013
There's one major trouble spot; the lack of a turbo...
Serious note; rear beam; check for knocks/creaksetc., leaking brake lines, clutch (handbrake on, pull in 1st gear untill it stalls/doesnt), smooth PAS, usual fluids, head gasket (check overflow tank for mayo/dirty water).
Also, cambelt, make sure it has a decent cambelt life on it - either done within the last 5 years or 50k. Some go by more miles/years, but i'd stick to this for confidence.
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 01:47 PM)ginge191 Wrote: There's one major trouble spot; the lack of a turbo...
Serious note; rear beam; check for knocks/creaksetc., leaking brake lines, clutch (handbrake on, pull in 1st gear untill it stalls/doesnt), smooth PAS, usual fluids, head gasket (check overflow tank for mayo/dirty water).
Also, cambelt, make sure it has a decent cambelt life on it - either done within the last 5 years or 50k. Some go by more miles/years, but i'd stick to this for confidence.
The manufactures white writing was still vivid on belt, so i can take this as green that it is under 3 years, is time/miles the only count on when to change? I didnt experience any knocks when turning roundabouts etc. I will try the stalling technique but may feel suicidal intentionally stalling the old beast! The engine cranks first time asking as for levels i will double check them all. Guy seems genuine enough, cars done 190 000miles may flush the engine oil out but we shall see tomorrow!
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - ginge191 - 18-06-2013
I wouldn't guarantee with the belt by visually seeing writing on it; it's hard to tell the amount a belt has perished; they're made NOT to perish. I'd only go with paperwork myself.
How much are you looking at paying for this by the way?>
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 02:08 PM)ginge191 Wrote: I wouldn't guarantee with the belt by visually seeing writing on it; it's hard to tell the amount a belt has perished; they're made NOT to perish. I'd only go with paperwork myself.
How much are you looking at paying for this by the way?>
Okay. Im looking no more than 500
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - Midnightclub - 18-06-2013
Check for arch liners.. chances are if it doesn't have them at the back there may be a rather large hole lurking
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - ginge191 - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 02:09 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:08 PM)ginge191 Wrote: I wouldn't guarantee with the belt by visually seeing writing on it; it's hard to tell the amount a belt has perished; they're made NOT to perish. I'd only go with paperwork myself.
How much are you looking at paying for this by the way?>
Okay. Im looking no more than 500
500 for a non turbo, phase 1 peugeot 306 on 190k! To be honest, i'd pay scrap value for it, 200-300 MAX.
think i paid £150 for my first phase 1
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 02:11 PM)ginge191 Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:09 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:08 PM)ginge191 Wrote: I wouldn't guarantee with the belt by visually seeing writing on it; it's hard to tell the amount a belt has perished; they're made NOT to perish. I'd only go with paperwork myself.
How much are you looking at paying for this by the way?>
Okay. Im looking no more than 500
500 for a non turbo, phase 1 peugeot 306 on 190k! To be honest, i'd pay scrap value for it, 200-300 MAX.
think i paid £150 for my first phase 1
It has a years Mot and tax till december. Also half a tank of diesel/veg oil LOL
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - ginge191 - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 02:14 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:11 PM)ginge191 Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:09 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote: Okay. Im looking no more than 500
500 for a non turbo, phase 1 peugeot 306 on 190k! To be honest, i'd pay scrap value for it, 200-300 MAX.
think i paid £150 for my first phase 1
It has a years Mot and tax till december. Also half a tank of diesel/veg oil LOL
Non turbo 306 running a NAD bosch? Sure?
check the fuel pump, it may be dangerous on VEG
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 02:17 PM)ginge191 Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:14 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:11 PM)ginge191 Wrote: 500 for a non turbo, phase 1 peugeot 306 on 190k! To be honest, i'd pay scrap value for it, 200-300 MAX.
think i paid £150 for my first phase 1
It has a years Mot and tax till december. Also half a tank of diesel/veg oil LOL
Non turbo 306 running a NAD bosch? Sure?
check the fuel pump, it may be dangerous on VEG
What effect on pump?
(18-06-2013, 02:25 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:17 PM)ginge191 Wrote:(18-06-2013, 02:14 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote: It has a years Mot and tax till december. Also half a tank of diesel/veg oil LOL
Non turbo 306 running a NAD bosch? Sure?
check the fuel pump, it may be dangerous on VEG
What effect on pump?
Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - ginge191 - 18-06-2013
wrong pump running on veg can end up breaking down internal seals
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 03:26 PM)ginge191 Wrote: wrong pump running on veg can end up breaking down internal seals
Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - ginge191 - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 03:41 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:(18-06-2013, 03:26 PM)ginge191 Wrote: wrong pump running on veg can end up breaking down internal seals
Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?
Yeh. Pull up in the car, handbrake on, try to pull away, so power down and clutch up, and it "should" stall. If the handbrake lets go, the handbrake isn't fantastic, the clutch pedal is released all the way, then the clutch is shot.
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 03:43 PM)ginge191 Wrote:(18-06-2013, 03:41 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:(18-06-2013, 03:26 PM)ginge191 Wrote: wrong pump running on veg can end up breaking down internal seals
Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?
Yeh. Pull up in the car, handbrake on, try to pull away, so power down and clutch up, and it "should" stall. If the handbrake lets go, the handbrake isn't fantastic, the clutch pedal is released all the way, then the clutch is shot.
no bother will try that, thanks
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 03:55 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote:(18-06-2013, 03:43 PM)ginge191 Wrote:(18-06-2013, 03:41 PM)306phase1Nreg Wrote: Going back to the clutch test, handbrake on, idle, slip into 1st? should stall?
Yeh. Pull up in the car, handbrake on, try to pull away, so power down and clutch up, and it "should" stall. If the handbrake lets go, the handbrake isn't fantastic, the clutch pedal is released all the way, then the clutch is shot.
no bother will try that, thanks
Where are the fuel filters located on these engines? Im used to Mercs plain play out
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - Piggy - 18-06-2013
sat almost central in the engine bay
a lot of 1.9nads came with bosch pumps...worth checking though...
and my mate recently got a phase3 1.9nad with a bosch pump, 12mths MOT and taxd and had only done 70k...for £650! in good nick too
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 06:59 PM)Piggy Wrote: sat almost central in the engine bay
a lot of 1.9nads came with bosch pumps...worth checking though...
and my mate recently got a phase3 1.9nad with a bosch pump, 12mths MOT and taxd and had only done 70k...for £650! in good nick too
At what point were they made by Bosch. Im certain this is a lucas pump, and am i write in saying these can be tuned?
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - Piggy - 18-06-2013
unless you look at the pump, theres no way of telling.
if it dont say bosch on it...it aint a bosch!
you can increase fueling a bit....but if you want more power...and mpgs to be honest...get a turbo diesel 1.9
RE: VHC of a N-reg phase 1 306 1.9 (non turbo) - 306phase1Nreg - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 07:08 PM)Piggy Wrote: unless you look at the pump, theres no way of telling.
if it dont say bosch on it...it aint a bosch!
you can increase fueling a bit....but if you want more power...and mpgs to be honest...get a turbo diesel 1.9
Its a lucas, plastic cover which i suspect will hold the diesel. Now i will know if its been fed veggy oil