My mystery GTi6

[Black306]

Hi all

I am wondering if anyone might have the skills to help me at all with my mystery 306 GTi6. 

- So the V5C doesn't even have a model, it simply says it's a Peugeot. 
- The V5C and HPI also shows as being imported and a manufacturer date of 2000, but the helpful guys on the GTi6 forum say its a mid 1999 as it looks like a phase 3 apart from the unpainted side strips and orange dials (so likely build just before the formal release of the Phase 3). So the DVLA have the wrong date potentially on the V5C, but the T registration they assigned it in 2001 when imported, sounds right. Not sure why they'd say it was a 2000MY then assign it a 1999 plate!
- Finally, I spoke to Peugeot head office and none of their systems return results for the cars VIN (VF37CRFSW32707086).

I was wondering if anyone here can either decode the build date from the below suspension mount sticker, or find anything from the VIN? Thanks for reading and any help greatly appreciated.

[welshpug]

your RP number is 8163, 16 March 1999.

[Mighty306]

Build code 8163 is 16th March 1999. I have no idea why Peugeot don't recognise the VIN. May be worth trying somewhere else to see if Peugeot just keyed it in incorrectly? The first half of it certainly looks fine (VF37CRFS) so if there's any issue with the number it's with the W3270.... bit.

[Black306]

Legends, thank you.

The VIN is correct on the V5C and matches both rear/front screen etchings and the tag under the bonnet. I tried it on the Peugeot website and it rejected it. Speaking to Peugeot today, who definitely keyed it correct, having also escalated to their manager, said it's perhaps because the systems typically only go back 15 years they thought. So they have no idea how to find out any details about the car. So as things stand there is nothing that states my car is a GTi other than the first bit of the VIN I believe is correct for a GTi!

In short I wanted something official to state it is a GTi and ideally find out where it was first sold (as it's imported from somewhere, but I don't know where). If anyone can help, I'll have to owe then a drink or something small for their car

[Eeyore]

looks great either way!

[Mighty306]

Build code 8163 is 16th March 1999. I have no idea why Peugeot don't recognise the VIN. May be worth trying somewhere else to see if Peugeot just keyed it in incorrectly? The first half of it certainly looks fine (VF37CRFS) so if there's any issue with the number it's with the W3270.... bit.

Hehe, Welshpug beat me to it!

[Mighty306]

Peugeot ......said it's perhaps because the systems typically only go back 15 years... So they have no idea how to find out any details about the car.

So as things stand there is nothing that states my car is a GTi other than the first bit of the VIN I believe is correct for a GTi!

In short I wanted something official to state it is a GTi and ideally find out where it was first sold (as it's imported from somewhere, but I don't know where). If anyone can help, I'll have to owe then a drink or something small for their car

It's really odd that Peugeot are saying their records only go back 15 years. The parts department of a Peugeot dealership should be able to pull up the details of your car today from Servicebox using your VIN. My local one (closed last year) were able to pull up my vehicle details when it was over 20 years old. There is a tab that will show all of the vehicle details & trim it came with from the factory.

As for the VIN, you are right in saying that it confirms your chassis left the factory with an RFS (XU10J4RS, GTI-6) engine in it. i.e., it is a GIT-6. Whether it still has the same engine it left the factory with is another matter & you would need Peugeot to confirm the original engine number for you. (I've got a downloaded version of Servicebox but it doesn't allow me to search by VIN.

[cully]

servicebox pulls up the vin no problems

the rpo number 08163 it works out to "16 March 1999" build date and DVLA first reg date is 5 feb 2001
there is something strange about your car says warranty started 1990
it is fitted with a rear brake load compensator so defo a ph 2

Vehicle characteristics

Vehicle family 306 RESTYL
AS/RP N° 08163 81 2 0353
Warranty Start Date 01/01/1990
Engine serial number 10 HKH8 3002048
BER e2*93/81*0152*02
General information
PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 306 RESTYL
SILHOUETTE 3 DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL SPORT 2
ENGINE INJECTION XU10J4RS
TRANSMISSION BVM6
PAINT TYPE NON-METALLIC PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE ALCANTARA "C7"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FY"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE3/6
ENGINE (TYPE) XU/XUD
OTHER BADGE, " MISC. " WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
BADGE GTI 6
Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL SPORT 2
PAINT TYPE NON-METALLIC PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE ALCANTARA "C7"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FY"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE3/6
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X19
Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE INJECTION XU10J4RS
FUEL FILLER CAP FUEL CAP WITHOUT LOCK
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
CYLINDER BLOCK (MATERIAL) CRANKCASE CAST IRON
FUEL UNLEADED PETROL 95 QUALITY A/B/E/E+
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) UPPER ENGINE EMISSION CONTROL EEC 95 L3/W3
PRE-FILTER ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
ENGINE (TYPE) XU/XUD
CATALYTIC CONVERTER 3 PARTS CATALYST
OIL COOLER MNTG WATER/OIL EXCHANGER ON ENGINE
ENGINE TEMP. NOZZLE ENGINE WATER TEMPERATURE BOX
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
FUEL SUPPLY CUTOFF FUEL FEED CUT-OFF
POWER VARIATION (ENGINE) STANDARD POWER
REGULATION 70/221 (FUEL LEAKS) WITH ANTI-RETURN VALVE
RHEOSTAT RHEOSTAT
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L3 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
FAN 2 FANS , 2 RATES
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL CONTROLLED PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT MOUNTING MAGNETI MARELLI
Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION BVM6
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE3/6
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 19 X 77
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X19
WHEEL STYLE ALLOY WHEEL CYCLONE
CLUTCH CABLE CLUTCH TAKING UP OF PLAY
AIR CHAMBER WITHOUT INNER TUBE
GEARBOX SAFETY LOCK W/O G/BOX SECURITY LOCKING
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX) SUPERIOR GEARBOX DIFF
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 195X55X15 V TYRES
WHEELS FITTED 6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEELS
GEARBOX TYPE BE3R MANUAL GEARBOX
Suspension-Steering-Brakes
ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 24
ANTI-THEFT DEVICE STANDARD ANTI-THEFT
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 21
TRACTION CONTROL WITHOUT ANTISLIPPING
SERVICE BRAKE WITH COMPENSATOR SLAVE
BRAKE TYPE VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
SUSPENSION IMPROVED SUSPENSION
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT ADDITIONAL ABS5 BOSCH
Body fittings
TOWBAR WITHOUT TOWBAR
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
AERIAL SHORT ROOF AERIAL
FUEL FILLER CAP FUEL CAP WITHOUT LOCK
WIPER ARM FRONT BLADE WITH DEFLECTOR
HOOD WITHOUT HOOD
REAR SPOILER ASSEMBLY WITH REAR SPOILER
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) LATERAL PROTECTORS L=40 + SIDE SILL
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) WITHOUT WHEEL CAP
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
HARD TOP WITHOUT HARD-TOP
EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM WITH EXHAUST OUTLET EMBELLISHER
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER REAR SCREEN WIPER
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK BUMPER GRILLE NOT CLOSED
BUMPER FULL BODY COLOUR SPORT UP TO MOD2000
LUGGAGE RACK WITHOUT ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
SPECIAL HEADLAMP (DOUBLE OPTIC) DOUBLE OPTIC LAMPS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES HANDLE+MIRROR BODY COL/SMOOTH NEUTR RR QUART PANEL
SPARE WHEEL MOUNTING STANDARD SPARE-WHEEL CARRIER
REAR SCREEN WASH REAR SCREEN WASH
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
HOOD COLOUR WITHOUT HOOD
REAR WINDOW (TYPE) REAR GLASS HEATED
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) PIVOTING REAR QTR GLASS
Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE ALCANTARA "C7"
SIDE ARMREST (TYPE) LATERAL ARMREST FOAM FR + MOULDED RR
ANTI-THEFT ALARM ALARM ULTRASONIC+PERIMETER STD
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT JOINTED REAR HEADREST
FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
REAR SEAT SEPARATE FOLD BACK BENCH SEAT
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITHOUT REAR ARMREST
LOAD FLOOR MOULDING WITHOUT LOAD FLOOR STRIP
LUGGAGE COVER WITH LUGGAGE COVER
REAR SEATBELT RR RETRACT BELT+STATIC LAP
FRONT SEATBELT PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION MPH
GRAB HANDLES FR + RR HANDLES WITH HOOKS
TACHOMETER REV COUNTER WITH NEEDLE
CONSOLE LONG CONSOLE WITH AIR DUCT
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
LOAD SPACE LIGHTING WITHOUT ARRANGING LIGHTING
BOOT AND LOAD SPACE LIGHTING AUTO BOOT LIGHT OR LOAD VOL SWITCH
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT THERMOSLEEVED DASHBOARD + CREADEC PANEL
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) 5 DIALS WITH LUMINOUS NEEDLES
TACHOMETER (SIGNAL CONNECTION) REV COUNTER CALC
CHILD SEAT ANCHORING POINTS WITHOUT CHILD SEAT MOUNTING
LOUDSPEAKER 4 SPEAKERS (2 COAX/FT DOORS+2 BICONICAL/RR SHELF)
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT REAR BLIND
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT INCLIN DRIVERS SEAT SQUAB FIXED LAT+LUMBAR BEARING
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT INCLIN PASSENG SEAT SQUAB FIXED LAT+LUMBAR BEARING
ROOF CONSOLE LONG ROOF CONSOLE
CHOKE CONTROL WITHOUT CHOKE FLAP CONTROL
EXTERIOR TEMP. INDICATOR EXT TEMP INDICATOR
COMPACT DISC COMPACT-DISC PRE-EQUIPMENT
REAR WINDOW LIFT WITHOUT REAR GLASS LIFT
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT ELEC CNTRL PASS FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
CLOCK NUMERIC CLOCK
COURTESY MIRROR DRIVER+PASSENGER WITHOUT LIGHTING
OIL GAUGE OIL TEMP + LEVEL INDICATOR
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG LATERAL AIR BAG
PASSENGER AIRBAG PASSENGER AIRBAG
EQUIPMENT PACK W/O EQUIPMENT PACK
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
COURTESY LAMP FRONT DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
FRONT SEAT GUARD WITHOUT SEPARATION GRILLE
RADIO RECEIVER LEVEL 4 RADIO RECEIVER
REFRIGERATION REGULAR AIR CONDITIONNING
CRUISE CONTROL WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL PARALLEL DRV HEIGHT ADJ
RHEOSTAT RHEOSTAT
CARPET COVER W/O CARPETMAT
DRIVER AIRBAG DRIVERS AIR BAG
CARPET DILOURS CARPET F330
WEAR INDICATOR WITH BRAKE WEAR WARNING LIGHT
INTERIOR PROTECTION W/O PROTECTING NET
SWITCH ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
COOLANT LEVEL WARNING LAMP NO WATER LEVEL WARNING
TRIM ADAPTATION LEATHER CUSHION AND LEATHER BUTT
LOCKING CONTROL CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
REAR WINDOW (TYPE) REAR GLASS HEATED
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) PIVOTING REAR QTR GLASS
STEERING WHEEL SPORT LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 3 BRANCHES
STORAGE SPACE LOCKS LOCKING GLOVEBOX
FAN 2 FANS , 2 RATES
Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR 90 AMP
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
BATTERY BATTERY L2 300
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CL 3
LOAD SPACE LIGHTING WITHOUT ARRANGING LIGHTING
BOOT AND LOAD SPACE LIGHTING AUTO BOOT LIGHT OR LOAD VOL SWITCH
SPECIAL LIGHTING WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
COURTESY LAMP FRONT DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
SPECIAL HEADLAMP (DOUBLE OPTIC) DOUBLE OPTIC LAMPS
Component manufacturers
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT ADDITIONAL ABS5 BOSCH
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT MOUNTING MAGNETI MARELLI
Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION STANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
SIDE IMPACTS DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
SET OF KEYS 2 IR REMOTE CONTROL KEYS + 1 UNIQUE MAIN KEY
DOOR SEAL SEAL DIRT EXCLUDER
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES HANDLE+MIRROR BODY COL/SMOOTH NEUTR RR QUART PANEL
SPEED MONITORING WITHOUT SPEED CHECK
SLAVE CONTROL UNIT 30 FUSES BOX
EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE

[Black306]

This is amazing, thank you so much; have messaged you about the drink/part I owe you as a thanks. Just need to try and info out where it was first sold as it was imported apparently. Assume somewhere like Peugeot Dublin. If anyone can find out where it was first sold or any of its owners, I'll owe you a drink or small part

Really strange about the warranty starting in 1990. Also, you say its a Phase 2 but they have put more Phase 3 stuff on it from what I can see, even the spec sheet references the 2000 bumpers for example. Huge thanks again.

[Mighty306]

Nice work Paul. Can I ask what version of Servicebox you're using? Are you paying for access to it? Cheers, James

[welshpug]

the speedo is in MPH so I don't think it would have been anywhere but the UK, everywhere else RHD use KMH I'm sure, so Ireland, Japan, Australia.

I would imagine much like Carl Chambers's rallye it just sat in a storage field somewhere for a while before being registered.

[cully]

Nice work Paul. Can I ask what version of Servicebox you're using? Are you paying for access to it? Cheers, James

service box online  i dont pay for it 


http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/pages/index.jsp

[ekjdm14]

The warranty starting 1990 is something I've seen before with our cars, TBH i just thought it was a glitch that all warranties showed that date, anyone ever seen a correct/feasible warranty start date on Servicebox? (perhaps that bit only works on vehicles under 15 years?)

Definitely looks a clean example, nice find and love the EXY paint one of my faves. So on the V5c it says previously registered abroad or suchlike? Strange they have the Mfr. date as 2000, perhaps the T-plate was/is a private one rather than age related?

I wonder if Isle of Man/Jersey/Guernsey would count as abroad to the DVLA since they have their own plates & presumably IoM at least use miles per hour...

[welshpug]

my 205 showed the same on servicebox for the warranty, even though its a 1989 car