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So when i was 14 my mum bought me an unbranded drill for me from QD for my birthday and on christmas eve it finally broke after 10 years in the trade and various home shenanigans it done bloody well for what i suspect was a VERY cheap drill. Now this leaves me with an issue of now i have no drill. Really need a new drill. Dont have a great deal to spend so i thought id ask all the tights guys and gals on here for recommendations.
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I got a DeWalt last year in the B&Q January sales and it's brilliant, 2 batteries and a 30 min fast charge too.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcd776s...term=47868
Sure it's this one but I had to but the belt clip separately. I paid £70ish back then I think.
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battery or corded drill
I tend to buy corded stuff as i don't use it regularly enough to keep the battery's charged
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(27-12-2016, 09:47 AM)1616six Wrote: I got a DeWalt last year in the B&Q January sales and it's brilliant, 2 batteries and a 30 min fast charge too.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcd776s...term=47868
Sure it's this one but I had to but the belt clip separately. I paid £70ish back then I think.
my only worry with stuff like that is its not man enough to go through 10mm thick steel over and over again. having never used a decent cordless drill though i cant comment on that for certain.
im open to either as long as they are reliable. i rarely have the need for cordless capabilities though as i a long extension lead that reaches around my property lol
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want something manly buy milwaukee built to last
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Not sure what your budget is, but I have had this set - http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-er1619...iver/7201g - for almost a year now, and the only time it's let me down is when drilling into hard concrete, which required a more manly, corded hammer drill. Apart from that, it's been a fantastic set. Maybe not a household, brand name, but it's not the most budget you can get either.
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a vote for Makita here, lots of choice of tools and the LXT batteries fit loads of things, grinders impact guns drills saws torches.
if for example you need a drill at the moment, buy a kit which is drill two batteries and charger, then if you want to expand the collection you can just buy the body.
they are servicable too, so if you wear anything out or break something its not the end of the tool.
loads of used kit about too.
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(27-12-2016, 10:46 AM)welshpug Wrote: a vote for Makita here, lots of choice of tools and the LXT batteries fit loads of things, grinders impact guns drills saws torches.
if for example you need a drill at the moment, buy a kit which is drill two batteries and charger, then if you want to expand the collection you can just buy the body.
they are servicable too, so if you wear anything out or break something its not the end of the tool.
loads of used kit about too.
Tom did mention he didn't want to spend a fortune, so Makita kit is right out the window IMO!
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(27-12-2016, 09:59 AM)Stef205 Wrote: want something manly buy milwaukee built to last
Chinese crap like the rest of them. http://www.ttigroup.com/en/our_brands/
Do you want corded/cordless? What are you generally drilling?
It sounds like replacing whatever just broke with something basically the same is all you really want?
So any screwfix wonder with a 2 year warranty is probably not going to break the bank and do you proud.
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As tigerstyle says, it does depends what you're using the drills for. If my previous recommendation is too pricey, may I also suggest the set I used before the Erbauer one - http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttp508ki...tid=187470 - A less powerful set, but still saw me right for almost 2 years before the batteries started to fail. 10% off at the moment too. Only downside to them is the drill doesn't have a hammer setting.
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(27-12-2016, 10:52 AM)tigerstyle Wrote: (27-12-2016, 09:59 AM)Stef205 Wrote: want something manly buy milwaukee built to last
Chinese crap like the rest of them. http://www.ttigroup.com/en/our_brands/
crap?
Dude are you for real?
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All my cordless tools are Makita, I love that one battery fit all. You could get a 18v combi with 2 battery's for £99 at screwfix not too long ago. It's like most things, you get what you pay for.
Plus if you get a makita set you can add an impact gun for £20-60 used. These are ace when working on cars.
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(27-12-2016, 10:47 AM)WiNgNuTz Wrote: Tom did mention he didn't want to spend a fortune, so Makita kit is right out the window IMO!
Makita is bloody good value, not like I suggested SnapOn now is it!!
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(27-12-2016, 11:44 AM)welshpug Wrote: (27-12-2016, 10:47 AM)WiNgNuTz Wrote: Tom did mention he didn't want to spend a fortune, so Makita kit is right out the window IMO! [emoji38]
Makita is bloody good value, not like I suggested SnapOn now is it!! True, but it's still fairly pricey.
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bollocks is it.
if you're trade and you rely on your tools, you can't afford to buy fisher price tat.
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Another vote for Milwaukee.. Brilliant make IMO and impact gun is more powerful than the snap on one (i know it doesnt apply here but still) and batteries fit everything
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Apart from the big brand stuff listed above that is no doubt good, I've had a corded Skil Drill for about 10 years that's done really well, handled everything I've thrown at it, including doing an outside wall vent for a tumble drier, I really shouldn't have done that either lol
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I use my drill All the time for various bits around my workshop and diy. Haveing read through your guys reviews and a few online as well i think a makita/dewalt is the way to go. However i cant afford that mich at this time. To keep my work going ive decided to buy a cheap drill from screwfix with a years garentee on it. £20. This will get me by while i save for a decent one. Think its the only way of doing without breaking the bank at this time.
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(27-12-2016, 11:50 AM)welshpug Wrote: bollocks is it.
if you're trade and you rely on your tools, you can't afford to buy fisher price tat. Well I'm glad you have the disposable income to afford the best tools straight off the bat. Maybe some of us don't have a lot to spare on kit, so we buy cheap to get us going, then when the "fisher price tat" gives up, we're in a position to buy something a bit better.
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(27-12-2016, 02:06 PM)WiNgNuTz Wrote: (27-12-2016, 11:50 AM)welshpug Wrote: bollocks is it.
if you're trade and you rely on your tools, you can't afford to buy fisher price tat. Well I'm glad you have the disposable income to afford the best tools straight off the bat. Maybe some of us don't have a lot to spare on kit, so we buy cheap to get us going, then when the "fisher price tat" gives up, we're in a position to buy something a bit better.
Essentially what ive just done, its taken me years to get decent tools with most my stuff, happens eventually just not fast. I mever thought my QD drill would pack up though lol
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Exactly, I'm doing the same. When I started out on my own, I bought the titan set I linked, which served me perfectly well for almost 2 years, and when the batteries started failing (and I found you can't buy batteries for that set separately), I upgraded to the erbauer set, and they are fantastic for the money. Just couldn't justify the cost of the makita gear at the time, but the erbauer stuff is very similar in build quality imo (having used both).
Having said that, some of the super cheap screwfix stuff is just as versatile, a mate of mine has had a titan breaker for a good few years, and it's taken some major abuse, but refuses to give up! [emoji38]
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Get a cheap one to get you by and save up for a decent battery one or a Makita corded. After talking to a Screwfix manager earlier this year I bought a de-walt brushless 3 speed with metal chuck and gearbox. When pushed the bloke admitted they were now getting many more Makita cordless returns than Dewalt now AND Makita argue the toss and blame operator error charging for repairs. Their turnaround on returns was also meant to be poorer than the odd Dewalts they were getting back too. It seems Makita are going backwards much like Dewalt did some years ago?
I ended up buying the top spec drill, impact driver, charger and batteries seperately off ebay for 70 quid less than the Screwfix "deal" with the lesser 2 speed, plastic chucked drill.
For cheap Erbauer take some beating as said above and I absolutely agree on the Titan breakers! Awesome bit of kit for the money and speeds up the job no end
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(27-12-2016, 11:05 AM)Stef205 Wrote: (27-12-2016, 10:52 AM)tigerstyle Wrote: (27-12-2016, 09:59 AM)Stef205 Wrote: want something manly buy milwaukee built to last
Chinese crap like the rest of them. http://www.ttigroup.com/en/our_brands/
crap?
Dude are you for real?
You have to look into what you're buying, you are no longer getting a premium designed+made in USA tool, you are getting a Chinese tool from a conglomerate same as the rest of them. A lot of people getting duped into thinking Milwaukee is this godlike Snap-on style brand, it isn't, they are trading on the name that once was.
So look at each tool purchase with a clean and level head away from advertising blinkers.
My last drill was a Dewalt as it was the best option for the features I needed at the time, brushless, swappable battery system, cheaper other tools to add onto the kit etc.
This s a good deal on a good drill if you think other Bosch tools may be useful for you: http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb-18v-...rill/69942
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Milwaukee is the only stuff that is capable of doing what I need in my job which is why I use them. Everything has some connection to China, and with Milwaukee giving a 3 year warranty why wouldn't I use them?
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(27-12-2016, 09:42 AM)bashbarnard Wrote: So when i was 14 my mum bought me an unbranded drill for me from QD for my birthday and on christmas eve it finally broke after 10 years in the trade and various home shenanigans it done bloody well for what i suspect was a VERY cheap drill. Now this leaves me with an issue of now i have no drill. Really need a new drill. Dont have a great deal to spend so i thought id ask all the tights guys and gals on here for recommendations.
if you go B+Q mate i got a trade card, Dewalt, or Makita.. we ABUSED the makita 18volt LiIon ones at work and they never gave up..
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I have a very nice WORX 24v Battery drill (over £100 when new a decade ago) and it works well but after a few years the batteries started only lasting for 10 mins.
Most of the time I use a Wilko corded hammer drill that cost me under £30 last year. It's lighter not having the battery and feels more powerful. I like the fact it has a proper chuck with chuck key. I have a couple of 30m extension cables so am almost always close enough to home to use it rather than the battery.
I might get a compressor soon and if I do I'll get an air drill as having used on when I worked at Honda it was awesome.
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Have to say,Erabuer stuff is very good for the price but by no means good enough for a professional day in day out use imo. I've been through 4 Erabuer drills so far at work (1in all fairness died when mains was introduced to it...). They seem to fail on their motors. Just get weaker and weaker. That said, the last drill I got was a cheap Makita one and it's taken some serious stick in its stride and was only about £20 more than the Erabuer.
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there are two types of makita stuff, the cheaper non LXT compatible stuff that B&Q screwfix etc sell masses of, and the LXT specific type which costs more.
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Got a bunch of drills kicking about.
Thing is they're like hammers, you usually need more than one.
Corded cheap stuff always seems to be fine for sustained abuse.
Battery stuff - the cheaper it is the more often you're changing out batteries or not having enough power.
erbauer I've found ok for cheapish stuff, mac allister not too bad either.
The Dewalt XR flexvolt stuff is insanely good if you can afford it.
Kinda agree with Welshpug, if you are a pro and use it day in day out you buy the tool for the job.
But also agree with Jonny, if you are just starting out you do the best with what you can do.
Try to avoid buying cheap, and paying twice if you can.
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Love all the Makita LXT stuff, it's all we ever get, for home and the workshop. Get some abuse and keep going.
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