Rare cars you dont see anymore,

[Orta]

I'd never seen one in my  life but today I saw a Corsa-B estate near Mansfield. Didn't even know they built them!!

[Jimmy306uk]

They came out in Brazil only I think

[procta]

one thing I used to see sometimes, is Q plated cars, now you don't see anything like that now on the road, how often have you lads seen a Q plater car now. a part from a kit car.

[Poodle]

You know q-plates are just for exactly that right? Ie cars built from scratch...

[Paul_13]

I saw 2 x novas in a day yesterday.
One was a 1.5 TD!

[powerandtorque]

You know q-plates are just for exactly that right? Ie cars built from scratch...

No they're not.

[Paul_13]

isn't it they can't establish the country of origin?

[powerandtorque]

Close. It's usually where the age or identity of the vehicle cannot be determined, often stolen/recovered where the original VIN etc have been removed and the original registration unknown.

They're often on kit cars because too many used/reconditioned major parts have been used (you can have one IIRC) to get a new age-related registration. It's perfectly possible to do a kit car and not get a Q-plate though.

[306carter]

Excuse the Snapchat writing but here is an Austin Maestro I saw on the A34 near Newbury a few weeks back.

[Paul_13]

There's one similar in the court car park across the road.

There's a mint white Austin maestro which I pass every day on the way back from work

[procta]

You know q-plates are just for exactly that right? Ie cars built from scratch...

 
Nope, I used kit cars as an example, as cars get Q plates for other reasons.

isn't it they can't establish the country of origin?

your close,  they can't establish the age of the car.

Close.  It's usually where the age or identity of the vehicle cannot be determined, often stolen/recovered where the original VIN etc have been removed and the original registration unknown.

They're often on kit cars because too many used/reconditioned major parts have been used (you can have one IIRC) to get a new age-related registration.  It's perfectly possible to do a kit car and not get a Q-plate though.

Its sort of a black and white area with kits cars, depending the kit car and also  how much the original donor car is used. 
 Even if you drop an engine in the back of a car, rather than having it at the front. That can cause a Q plate, as the identity of the car has been altered from the manufactures design.
It goes on a points system, you will have to look it up, as it covers stacks of stuff on it.
 Really does go into some right detail.

[Seb_Ryan]

Yeah you need to have like 70% of the original running gear to get age related on kit cars.. Or new parts ive forgot now i did look into it with my kit car but its still unfinished haha. The westfield mega blade we had was age related (2006) but had a 919cc fireblade engine in which they stopped around 1997 so not sure how that worked.

---

Along with freelander diff, and brakes etc lol

[procta]

Yeah you need to have like 70% of the original running gear to get age related on kit cars.. Or new parts ive forgot now i did look into it with my kit car but its still unfinished haha. The westfield mega blade we had was age related (2006) but had a 919cc fireblade engine in which they stopped around 1997 so not sure how that worked.

---

Along with freelander diff, and brakes etc lol

I think some kit car companies supply the vin and chassis. A again depending on what Kit you buy. As westfields, caterhams 7 can be built from scratch as you say, and all you do is drop what every engine and brakes. So I think those can get the latest car reg, that's going at the time. 
Mark evans built a cobra kit car, and used a sierra car as a donor car, I think all that he used was the brakes, and axles and a few other odds and sods from the sierra. I think that even got the registration of the year it was built or tested.

 

[powerandtorque]

As I understand it, to get a new registration, the bulk of the car must be new (including the chassis/monocoque) and a single major component may be used/reconditioned - often this is the engine or gearbox, which is I suspect how the Megablade above was done.

With a single-donor kit (Sierra based was the classic in the late 90's) if you use enough of the major parts from the donor car thus scoring enough points and have a new chassis/monocoque, you can get an age-related plate. As I understand, they really shouldn't be running around on the original registration/V5 from the original donor car.

It's all there on the DVLA website somewhere.

[procta]

As I understand it, to get a new registration, the bulk of the car must be new (including the chassis/monocoque) and a single major component may be used/reconditioned - often this is the engine or gearbox, which is I suspect how the Megablade above was done.

With a single-donor kit (Sierra based was the classic in the late 90's) if you use enough of the major parts from the donor car thus scoring enough points and have a new chassis/monocoque, you can get an age-related plate.  As I understand, they really shouldn't be running around on the original registration/V5 from the original donor car.

It's all there on the DVLA website somewhere.

makes me laugh when mini owners "Re shell" their mini coopers. As some of them are bit like triggers broom. only thing that's stayed the same is the Reg. So another thing you got to watch with classic cars, is it a proper sports one etc not some reshell poverty specd one done up as a one and passed off.
I can name a few cars like that, ford escorts with the XR series and the cosworths.
  

---

There's one similar in the court car park across the road.

There's a mint white Austin maestro which I pass every day on the way back from work

the last Austin maestro in sunderland disappeared last year I think, The fella who owned it was a british Leyland fan, had a couple of classic cars, a old mini and an I think an mgb, too. The Austin maestro was on a J plater and was well tidy too! In fact it came from down south, as the lad went all the way to get it. Used it as his daily for too. 

[powerandtorque]

You can re-shell using a new "Heritage" shell and keep the original registration, which is common on Mini's.

[procta]

You can re-shell using a new "Heritage" shell and keep the original registration, which is common on Mini's.

yeah that's true, As you can do that with the MGBs, but got to say I haven't really seen any new shells on minis mind or new engines been dropped in.
I read an article about an MGB been built from scratch and had some tuned up engine in it. He most have spent well over 20k! 

[Poodle]

Ah i get it, my bad.

[procta]

has anyone seen that E petition about releasing some of the scrapped cars from the scrappage scheme?

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/75232

got to say I think the lads about 5 nearly 6 years to late

[mr_fish]

One for Procta
Spotted on a salvage site

28k miles, 1.0L, B Reg

Ideal resto?

[attachment=22128]

[procta]

that will go for some money just for the engine,

[Toms306]

Procta's Metro senses working quickly there!

[procta]

Procta's Metro senses working quickly there!

mini boys will snap that up tom, as its common practice with them lads! not matter what condition its in they will still rob the unit, rather than paying half to get their current lumps sorted out.

[Hdi and proud of it]

Around 1990 I had a Ginetta G15 as my play car (only car) and used to see others around regularly, but haven't seen one now for about 10 years, where they hiding?

[procta]

I haven't seen a ginetta road car yet! only racing ones sadly, got a funny feeling that they don't make road cars now, just racing ones.

[procta]

when I was coming back home after walking the dog, I heard something like a old lorry and a dump valve going off. I was expecting to see some vag thing pass me, But it wasn't, it happened to be a Volvo estate 240 decked on its steelies! I was f*cking ill with laughter! My dad said wtf was that! he thought it was a motor bike or something. I told what it was, he just laughed!
So looks like the street sleeper is in!

[Orta]

As I understand it, to get a new registration, the bulk of the car must be new (including the chassis/monocoque) and a single major component may be used/reconditioned - often this is the engine or gearbox, which is I suspect how the Megablade above was done.

With a single-donor kit (Sierra based was the classic in the late 90's) if you use enough of the major parts from the donor car thus scoring enough points and have a new chassis/monocoque, you can get an age-related plate.  As I understand, they really shouldn't be running around on the original registration/V5 from the original donor car.

It's all there on the DVLA website somewhere.

makes me laugh when mini owners "Re shell" their mini coopers. As some of them are bit like triggers broom. only thing that's stayed the same is the Reg. So another thing you got to watch with classic cars, is it a proper sports one etc not some reshell poverty specd one done up as a one and passed off.
I can name a few cars like that, ford escorts with the XR series and the cosworths.
  

---

There's one similar in the court car park across the road.

There's a mint white Austin maestro which I pass every day on the way back from work

the last Austin maestro in sunderland disappeared last year I think, The fella who owned it was a british Leyland fan, had a couple of classic cars, a old mini and an I think an mgb, too. The Austin maestro was on a J plater and was well tidy too! In fact it came from down south, as the lad went all the way to get it. Used it as his daily for too. 

 
You can't fake an escort cosworth because it isn't really an escort it's based on a sierra so the cosworth is bigger and longer than the standard escort. 

[procta]

As I understand it, to get a new registration, the bulk of the car must be new (including the chassis/monocoque) and a single major component may be used/reconditioned - often this is the engine or gearbox, which is I suspect how the Megablade above was done.

With a single-donor kit (Sierra based was the classic in the late 90's) if you use enough of the major parts from the donor car thus scoring enough points and have a new chassis/monocoque, you can get an age-related plate.  As I understand, they really shouldn't be running around on the original registration/V5 from the original donor car.

It's all there on the DVLA website somewhere.

makes me laugh when mini owners "Re shell" their mini coopers. As some of them are bit like triggers broom. only thing that's stayed the same is the Reg. So another thing you got to watch with classic cars, is it a proper sports one etc not some reshell poverty specd one done up as a one and passed off.
I can name a few cars like that, ford escorts with the XR series and the cosworths.
  

---

There's one similar in the court car park across the road.

There's a mint white Austin maestro which I pass every day on the way back from work

the last Austin maestro in sunderland disappeared last year I think, The fella who owned it was a british Leyland fan, had a couple of classic cars, a old mini and an I think an mgb, too. The Austin maestro was on a J plater and was well tidy too! In fact it came from down south, as the lad went all the way to get it. Used it as his daily for too. 

 
You can't fake an escort cosworth because it isn't really an escort it's based on a sierra so the cosworth is bigger and longer than the standard escort. 

the floor pans are a sierra if I am right in the escorts? not sure what else bar the running gear, as I never really saw a escort cosworth up close, in fact I have only seen sierras,

[Orta]

Nah every panel is different to a standard escort. You can dress a replica so it looks ok to the layman but u can tell!

[Herby7]

Nissan Sunny