Swapping to a disc beam

[Matt]

Dropping the drum beam off my car, and fitting a disc beam,
So a few questions

A) will the brake pipes be the same?
B) if not what do I need to make them up? I know I need copper piping, but size?
C) unions/connections? What do I do here?

[Niall]

brake pipes I'm not sure about but i know you need different handbrake cables. Either that or two bricks

[Toms306]

Yeah the brake pipes to the flexies will be the same, assuming the beam still has it's flexies in place.

If you round/twist them you'll need brake pipe though, it's jut normal copper brake pipe...3/16". Can buy a 25ft roll from Halfords for about £8 on trade. Unions are easy as well, only seems to be one regular size, they are male unions into the flexies from the car.

[Matt]

Nice one tom! The disc beam going on has the brake pipe cut. So I'm guessing remove those, and be carefull removing the original brake pipes from the drum beam, and then the brake pipes from the drum beam will fit the disc? Then I just need handbrake cables

[Toms306]

Which pipes are cut? I assume you mean the solid ones from the flexy pipe to the car as there'd be no point cutting the others, so yeah the ones from your car will fit the disc beam fine.

Yeah cables are different as you've said.

[Matt]

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See where those pipes go, just above the load compensator, that's where they are cut

[Toms306]

Ah yeah, forgot about the load compensator as Im usually dealing with ph3s lol. But yeah, the same applies, that'll be fine.

Its just the solid ones from the flexy to the calliper or cylinder that would be different afaik.

[Matt]

Sweet, I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Hopefully most can be transfered from the drum beam if not?

[Seb_Ryan]

Sweet, I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Hopefully most can be transfered from the drum beam if not?

I put a Ph3 one on my Ph2 so just swapped compensator over with brake lines.. only different bit is onto the caliper obviously lol

[Toms306]

Yeah as above, its the solid line between flexy and brake that is different, but you' shouldn't need to touch them anyway.

[Matt]

The disc beam I'm putting on is ph2, and mine is a PBS 2.5 lol so should be all good there. Time to start soaking shit I think.

Just need some callipers and fittings sent to me now

[tomosy10]

Do you have to change anything else if your guna do a change as I don't no whats included.

[Matt]

As far as I'm aware, you'll need

A disc beam (complete with discs, callipers, pads etc)
Handbrake cables
Cooper pipe and unions (if yours f*ck up)

It's all up there ^^

[tomosy10]

I'm only wandering for future referance but find it hard to read and understand everyone wat they say unless someone tells me direct if you see wat I meen.

[Matt]

Haha yep gotcha! I'm pretty much the same, long winded explanations go over my head.
Someone gives be bullet points and I'm sorted.
Hope that list helps. I'll be tackling this over the next week so I'll update with what's Definatley needed for you

[tomosy10]

Ok mate thanks.

[Toms306]

It's proper easy tbh...

Remove exhaust backobox and spare wheel
Slacken and remove handbrake cables from inside car (tying string to them so new ones are easier to install )
Undo solid brake pipes from flexible ones (or from the load comp if ph2)
Take the weight of the beam with atleast a pair of jacks
Undo 6 16mm bolts in the boot
Lower beam to floor on jacks.

Lift new beam into place with jacks
Tighten and torque 16mm bolts in boot
Refit and tighten solid brake pipe unions
Replace handbrake cables
Refit exhaust and wheel
Bleed brakes/adjust handbrake

There really isn't anything difficult, just a bit awkward as the beams heavy, and fiddly with brake pipe.

[Grant]

If you need it Matt, I have a brake flaring tool and some spare copper pipe and unions (I'll have to double check i have the unions)

[Matt]

I've got a flaring tool how much pipe? Might be of use