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Any admin want to move anything to a different section?
Took ages to find all these images haha
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Tell you what, let the discussion play out and everything be uploaded then I'll move it to photos and sticky it
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(10-01-2014, 02:46 PM)THE_Liam Wrote: Tell you what, let the discussion play out and everything be uploaded then I'll move it to photos and sticky it
Yeah nice one dude :-)
Il upload my pdfs when I'm on a computer
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(10-01-2014, 10:16 AM)darrenjlobb Wrote:
What wheels are they? They dont look like the harriers Im used to seeing? look better... Are they not just the 15" hub caps that early XSi's came with as standard?
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Disclaimer: The above is not to be taken to heart and is probably a joke, grow up you big girl.
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Some interesting pricing information from the brochure, reflecting inflation (using inflation calculator) -
306 1.4 Meridian 5 Door Price in 2001 = £10,995 OTR Price today £15,685.47
Compare to
308 1.2 Access 5 Door Price in 2014 = £14,495 (base spec)
306 2.0 HDi Meridian Estate Price in 2001 = £13,520 OTR Price today £19,287.63
306 2.0 HDi DTurbo 5 Door Price in 2001 = £14,020 OTR Price today £20,000.93
Compare to
308 1.6 HDi Feline 5 Door Price in 2014 = £21,745 (top spec, equivalent engine to 2.0HDi - 115hp)
Options -
CD Player Price in 2001 = £299 Price today £426.55!
Thatcham Cat 1 Alarm Price in 2001 = £229 Price today £326.69
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That's great :-D
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Il have a proper read later, but in the meantime, more rep!
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Stickied in photos, thanks for all who've contributed, great resource
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That's pretty cool, some colours in there I didn't know about, think that finally settles the question of what colour my brothers old HDi Dturbo was, must've been tie-break green metallic, as the other greens are flat, I think?
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Where you finding these Zac? Any bits on S16s?
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(10-01-2014, 09:56 PM)Frosty Wrote: Where you finding these Zac? Any bits on S16s?
just searching random stuff on google lol, the one thing I havnt been able to find much about is the s16 :/ i believe swampy said he has an s16 sales brochure, il see if he can scan and upload
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Just been reading through the '6 brochure, can't think of anything else that was anywhere near that good when it came out. Golf GTI 16V was heavy and soft with less power, Astra GSI had a crap chassis and had lost the red top, Escort RS2000 was crap in every way, Honda Civic VTI was ugly, Almera GTI was ugly, Renault 19 16v wouldn't handle, Fiat Bravo HGT would eat it's gearbox or understeer into a hedge. Closest thing was either a 145 Cloverleaf that wasn't as fast or an EK9 Type R which wasn't available here. Surprised there aren't more '6s around really.
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One think people also forget is that the d turbo had pretty good performance at the time. In like 1995, 90bhp for a diesel was a fair bit but people now compare then to the 130/150 bhp vags etc
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everyone I speak to at work or whatever when they notice im driving a dturbo always say "i used to have one of these when they were new, or my brother bought one of these"..... always followed by "went like stink!" which makes you think, how terrible must other cars have been around 94-97 ish if so many people remember dturbos as been a properly quick car?
and like what liam said, why didn't they sell more gti6?
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Yeah I know what you mean. I'm sure there ain't many people out there that haven't driven a Xud powered Peugeot/Citroen at some point in there life
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They were the first diesel to be properly popular over here, and at one point the BX TD was the fastest diesel sold in the UK...
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(18-01-2014, 10:57 AM)ozonehostile Wrote: everyone I speak to at work or whatever when they notice im driving a dturbo always say "i used to have one of these when they were new, or my brother bought one of these"..... always followed by "went like stink!"
This was something my old workmate said when he first got in my DT for a lift home, apparently he had one as a company car, and spent most of his time hooning up and down motorways in it. He was also very taken aback by how well mine went when i gave it some stick.
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(18-01-2014, 10:57 AM)ozonehostile Wrote: and like what liam said, why didn't they sell more gti6?
Look at modern day equivalents. Meganes for example. You see shit loads of the basic ones on the road but how many R26s do you see? Not many. Same goes for all hot hatches at the moment and probably will for a while. If you think, the GTi was as near as 20k new which could by you a boring motorway cruiser but with loads more spec (and probably a VAG tax ). Unfortunately there isn't many of us out there that really enjoy driving lol.
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Tbh, people will often think their first/early cars were quick... I still remember my 1.8 as being quick....but if I got in one now I'm pretty sure it'd feel stupidly slow, but then I also don't remember quite how clunky/rattly/bumpy 306s are until getting back in one...
That said, it's also surprising how 'slow' sportier cars were in the early 90's....was watching a programme the other day where they were talking about an old 2.5 petrol Porsche with a top speed of.....140mph.....my diesel Golf passed that figure with ease 10 years later!!
As for selling more 6's, I'm also kinda surprised they didn't as well....tax was the same as any car over 1.5l (most of them!) at the time, and fuel wasn't exactly expensive....
And after reading the 2000 sales brochure up there, I'm amazed anyone bought DTurbo HDi's.....was cheaper to buy a Meridian estate with more space and better spec!! However their sales patter is pretty good, I was almost considering buying a 306 by the end of it...but not an 'L' which they made a point of showing to be shit with asterixs everywhere pointing out that nothing was available on it.
Unfortunately, as Niall said though, people just don't care about cars these days... I was having a lengthy chat with a 'nearly new' car dealer the other day (only wanted a quiet look round the forcourt! ) and he was saying they don't take any petrols over 1.8 at that garage now as they simply don't sell....everyone wants things that are cheap to tax, cheap to insure and cheap to fuel - and don't forget small petrols will do 50mpg+ now with £20 a year tax... However that means the majority of new cars being sold now are slower, much slower...he was talking about 80bhp 1.4s as if they were supercars.
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The thing is that peoples perspective of performance is wrong these days with sporty cars. I remember talking to a mate of a mate about hot hatches, told him I'd driven an R26 and he was like "Was gonna get one of them but got a Focus RS because the Megane was slow as shit", and I couldn't understand that. He was calling a car that does 60 in just over 6 seconds slow because a Focus RS was slightly quicker. It's all a willy-waving contest these days. I mean how often do we race away from the lights? I don't, I can't be bothered risking my license! I'll go find an NSL back road and push my car there...
I learnt when I had the Skoda that unless you want to risk yoyr license you can't push these cars on the road. The only time the 211bhp was any real use was overtaking.
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Something from old 205 press releases
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(18-01-2014, 07:37 PM)Toms306 Wrote: As for selling more 6's, I'm also kinda surprised they didn't as well....tax was the same as any car over 1.5l (most of them!) at the time, and fuel wasn't exactly expensive.... It wasn't expensive compared to today's standards but there were still fuel price protests in the 1990s as during the decade of the 90s we went from having one of the cheapest prices per L to one of the most expensive prices per L in Europe.
(11-01-2014, 09:25 AM)THE_Liam Wrote: Surprised there aren't more '6s around really. (18-01-2014, 10:57 AM)ozonehostile Wrote: and like what liam said, why didn't they sell more gti6? There were 18-19k brand new, which adjusting for inflation is 28.5k in today's pricing. It's not that they weren't good cars, its that they were actually pretty much the equivalent of going and buying a brand new Ford Focus RS. I'm sure lots of us here would like one of those but not if it means dropping 25-30k on it!
They were a halo car. The top of the range one that boosts sales across the whole range and creates a positive brand image for the 306.
This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted above as fact.
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Some of this material is brilliant!
The XSi wheels from a few posts up are definitely steelies with wheel trims but I haven't seen one with them for years! I think the lazers were an optional extra on ph1 xsi's!
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those wheels are not alloys, there plastic wheel trims.. back in the day the alloys were an optional extra...
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(09-01-2014, 02:12 PM)ozonehostile Wrote: Some more psa advertising gold
what a long time! thanks for the videos
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