Stripping head, more engine questions :)

[Chris_90]

So im stripping the head down ready to be skimed, took cam out, but i carnt work out how to remove the valves?

So how do i do it?

P.s This is a learning curve for me so no stupid answers please (i no thats a big ask )

[Daniel306]

You need a valve compressor, then you need to remove the collects.

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[Chris_90]

Oh..... I see now well the issue i was having is were is the spring/ collets (how ever its spelt)

Oooooo There they are



Thanks for the vid Daniel

p.s did you get my pm?

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Any one recommend a valve spring compressor for the job?

[Paul_13]

Laser one from halfords

[strictly_perv]

Is this the head with the broken valve? If so I'd avoid using it as the valve shaft may have been damaged, not noticeable to the eye and cause an oil leak or worse

[zx_volcane]

not sure if that video mentions, but you need to keep everything in order for re-assembly

[Chris_90]

Is this the head with the broken valve? If so I'd avoid using it as the valve shaft may have been damaged, not noticeable to the eye and cause an oil leak or worse

No that head has big BIG chunks and gorges in it from were valve as hit it, so just got a another engine.

not sure if that video mentions, but you need to keep everything in order for re-assembly

Yer I was thinking this tbh I plan on making a bord to put every thing on in order.

I'm sure there will be more questions on this when I come to rebuilding it, but won't be for a while till I got money for gasket Kit and money to get it skimmed.

[Piggy]

Dam just seen where you are otherwise I would drop my tools round...
Spring compressor is invaluable really to do this

Once done...get the valves in a drill with some wet n dry paper and get them spanking clean!

Also worth buying a valve lapper and paste

[cully]

http://306oc.co.uk/forum/thread-17479-po...#pid340753

[Tom]

Hammer and a deep socket

[Chris_90]

Dam just seen where you are otherwise I would drop my tools round...
Spring compressor is invaluable really to do this

Once done...get the valves in a drill with some wet n dry paper and get them spanking clean!

Also worth buying a valve lapper and paste

Yer was gonna look in to the valve lapper thingy, what grade wet a dry should I use?

http://306oc.co.uk/forum/thread-17479-po...#pid340753

Thanks Will read though that when I get chance should help out

Hammer and a deep socket

I have issues with hammers every time I use one I always brake something and then takes 3 Times as long to fix what I just messed up

[Piggy]

Hammer n socket get then off all right...but are no help in getting them back together!!!

Something like 400grade to begin with.

I wouldnt reccomend it but I use a careful blunt screwdriver to get the worst off first...be careful though and have the drill in a vice

[Uberderv]

I use BBQ cleaner to clean carbon deposits off stuff, works reet good. Will also dissolve ceramic coatings off piston skirts so be careful what you spray it on. After that as above Drill, scotchbrite lap in.

[Mal]

I used one of these


Mind your shims under the buckets, don't lose them! Mind the collets too

As for lapping the valves, well worthwhile. Found some of mine were heavily pitted, required the other end of the tin of paste....

While you have the head off, look for blobs of casting in the ports and dress them out

[Piggy]

yeah thats a valve spring compressor!

you need to use the coarse valve paste THEN the fine ideally

[Danny2009]

Don't know why people strip them? Take mine to a local engine rebuilding specialist unbolt it off the car and take it straight to them £30 later it's skimmed

[Piggy]

but if you have the head off, lapping the valves in is a given to be honest imo

And I wana come to your engineering firm...my local charged me over a £100 for a skim n test

I miss my old town where I could get them for £25

[Chris_90]

Don't know why people strip them? Take mine to a local engine rebuilding specialist unbolt it off the car and take it straight to them £30 later it's skimmed

I'm striping it so can have valve stem seals etc why it's in bits, if your gonna do a job men as well do it right first time.

Do I really need to clean the carbon off the valves? Cos there gonna get dirty again soon as its started up.

Gonna lap them why there out tho

[Piggy]

You be amazed how much carbon has built up on them

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Fyi lap them with the valve stem seals out

[Chris_90]

You be amazed how much carbon has built up on them

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Fyi lap them with the valve stem seals out

Ok, well not doing this yet as not got money for bits yet, was just having a nosy why I was filtering oil in shed earlier.

Is it worth renewing the fire seals on the injector ports to?

[Piggy]

Oh yeah...but they normally come with the headset.

Fire seals and copper seals, IE two for each injector

[Chris_90]

This is the head gasket set I'm looking at buying, it any good? And is that every thing I need? (minus the bolts)


http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...0283046466

If that's no good any one got links to a decent one?

[Piggy]

Seems a bit cheap to be honest

Payen or Victor Reinz would be my only preference

[Danny2009]

I'd buy that looks decent then just buy a payen or victor reinz headgasket

Seems silly but them inlet gaskets are £10 on there own from my local factors so worth it if you think about it

[Chris_90]

Ok then if that's the case probably better getting this genuine Peugeot Kit, then find a decent head gasket.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...1232003434

Surely be better genuine Peugeot Kit?

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Maybe this head gasket? (still looking tho)

Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vie...1145853806

[Danny2009]

That head set looks ok

But mate get a payen on reinz headgasket or as soon as you come on boost you will be changing it again

[Chris_90]

That head set looks ok

But mate get a payen on reinz headgasket or as soon as you come on boost you will be changing it again

That gasket is Victor reinz one?

[Chris_90]

Got some more questions guys, what sandpaper shal I use on the block deck? Also what sandpaper for getting carbon of the lip of the boars to take pistons/rods out?

Any tips or hints on removing pistons/conrods?

Thanks in advance

[Martin306]

I use scotchbrite to remove deposits.

[Tom]

I used quite a coarse black paper. Just bought a halfords hobby kit they call it i think. Used one of the rougher black sheets, just go easy. <<< That was for the lip on the cylinder.