darrenjlobb's Project M-TDI Twin Turbo Supercharged Derv Bus

[lobbland recovery]

this is darren. he is never going to settle with what power he is making, always going to want more.
so the leds are going to have to go straight in a visible final position.

and yeh the ginger streak of p**s (ruan) has moved up country now. went up just after new year.

[Daniel306]

Is it a 307 head?

[D@wson]

Looks good will be watching the thread.

[mark_airey]

Is it a 307 head?

If I'm not mistaken the 2.0 16v hdi in the 307 is a ford/Volvo engine and not a de block so I'm guessing not but might be wrong on that!

[darrenjlobb]

Is it a 307 head?

If I'm not mistaken the 2.0 16v hdi in the 307 is a ford/Volvo engine and not a de block so I'm guessing not but might be wrong on that!

Heh, the 2.0 16v hdi in the volvo / fords is acaully a peugeot DW motor

Its virtually what this head is, but its acaully from a C5, they made two variants of the motor, dependant on management, the bosch management had the norm pump as in pugs / ally manifold, and the siements had the HP pump strapped to the side of the camshaft where the vac pump belongs, which for an mtdi project is just in the way / the manifold is made of plastic....

But yeah, pretty much the same head!

[darrenjlobb]

For an update, as boring as it is....

Ive taken the block down to redruth this week to be honed out / balanced etc, so really just waiting for them to sort that out, then I can start doing something...starting to get pretty bord so need something to tinker with!

[mark_airey]

Heh, the 2.0 16v hdi in the volvo / fords is acaully a peugeot DW motor

Its virtually what this head is, but its acaully from a C5, they made two variants of the motor, dependant on management, the bosch management had the norm pump as in pugs / ally manifold, and the siements had the HP pump strapped to the side of the camshaft where the vac pump belongs, which for an mtdi project is just in the way / the manifold is made of plastic....

But yeah, pretty much the same head!

Is it really....... hock: I always thought that in the 307 the 90 and 110 models were based on a DW10 and had a 5 speed box while the 136 hdi had a ford/volvo developed engine with a 6 speed box that was totally different to the DW, so does this then mean that if I can find one the 6 speed box will fit the mrs's 110 block??..................

On the other hand, its about time there was some progress, plus you must be so bored of the stock lump by now at this rate though you should be back in business for FCS

[Scott]

Could you imagine the reactions of people who saw this last year when they see a second turbo has been added? They'll be expecting an extra charger every year after

[Jacko]

No, they'll just remember to not get in the way of the exhaust if it goes on the dyno..

[sweeney1987]

so the 8 valve and 16 valve blocks are identical?
How come noone has been fittinh the 6 speed boxes off them? thought they wouldnt fit? :S

[Jacko]

They're hydrolic clutches IIRC

[Poodle]

^^^ This. It's not that they don't fit, more that it's such a ballache of a job converting everything to work properly.

[Dum-Dum]

so the 8 valve and 16 valve blocks are identical?
How come noone has been fittinh the 6 speed boxes off them? thought they wouldnt fit? :S

Its cos of the hydraulic clutch and cable shift being a all ache mate, it would bolt up. Also you need a Gti6 steering rack for clearance and thus fail on mini roundabouts

[Diggers]

how does your LDA light work? and whats the point in it?

[darrenjlobb]

Its not meant to be an LDA light....thats not the point of it lol...

The LDA on my car used to be electronically controlled by a pressure switch, to stop some of the premovement, as running that much boost meant it started creeping in 200+hp of fuel wayyy to soon....the light was simply a diagnostic thing I would use and switch between outputs to make sure they were activating etc...Just an easy way to see if its working / when while driving basically....

[darrenjlobb]

Small update, still have no engine block to work with at the moment, so figured id spent this afternoon fitting up the new gauges so at least that's done before hand, look much better / oem in real life, and will be 100 times more accurate, so i'm pretty pleased with that....Also got fed up with cutting my hands / fiddling with my wiring nightmare behind the dash, so re designed the dash top box to be a wiring hub where everything is connection, or will be anyway, just cut the box apart and re mounted the hinges...






Yes, a 9 inch grinder is clearly required here...








And a reminder of the fact that this heap at the moment is my daily driver...

[Tom]

Needs a clean there met Whats up with all the electrics with the dials?

[Atterz]

Stepper motors i think? For a more smooth gauge action!

[darrenjlobb]

Spoke to machinists today, theres a chance they might have it ready tomorrow, so ill hopefully find some time next week to go and collect it! Hope so as I want to build something, time is going on!

[4WayDiablo]

Spoke to machinists today, theres a chance they might have it ready tomorrow, so ill hopefully find some time next week to go and collect it! Hope so as I want to build something, time is going on!

Awesome news! Should be pretty epic :-)

[Foxy-jim]

Good man! Can't wait for this to get going!

[Dum-Dum]

Whats the electronic valve controller thingamy?

[darrenjlobb]

Boost controller...

[darrenjlobb]

Well finally a long due update...

After some serious frustration (as normal) with my local machine shop, I finally have a bottom end back in my workshop...Its been delay after delay with the most rediculas excuses, but its here now, so I guess ill have to get over it lol!

Have had the engine shop assemble the block / crank / rods / pistons purely because for what they charge to do it, its not worth doing it yourself when your having work done anyway, and that way everything is torqued perfectly, and saves me a load of hassle...which is nice!

So basically have a bare bottom end back, which has been cleaned, honed out, skimmed the deck, everything balanced, and then rebuild with new rings / bearings / seals....the same as when I rebuilt the XUD's basically...

Have just bolted the oil pump back on this evening before I loose the bolts, and now need to find the pot of engine paint (because im to tight to buy some more) that I used last time so I can get it painted up ready to start building the motor up.

Not much to see really, but some pictures of uber clean block etc:








Victor R gaskets all round as normal!

[padge]

very clean!

[Foxy-jim]

Looks awesome mate! Wont be like that for long though im guessing!

[Dum-Dum]

Lush mate, you not having the pistons machined down to drop the comp on this one?

As for engine paint hammerite is fine and a small pot will do a good few coats on a block.

[darrenjlobb]

Lush mate, you not having the pistons machined down to drop the comp on this one?

As for engine paint hammerite is fine and a small pot will do a good few coats on a block.

Remember what rods are in this motor I only took material off the first one, the rods drop the compression since ive been forged....

And yeah, ill have to get some paint, everythings going wrong this week, so a bit scared to start on this incase somethings goes tits up now!

[anto]

Looks good Darren keep up the good work!

Are you sticking with the ve pump?

[darrenjlobb]

Done some work on this today around looking at a 106 NAD (Ed Doe, Need to ask you something to look at on yours if you dont mind )..

Got the block painted, not the best of jobs, but as I found out on the last motor, by the time you add in blowers / pumps etc, you cant see it anyway, so didnt see much point going overkill with it.

On a sidenote, does anyone have techy data for these motors (torque settings) as there's a few bits on the head I wouldn't mind knowing the correct setting for..

Anyway, paint,




Clean up head studs, and dig out torque lube from back of bench (found it in no time somehow!)



Studs in



Gasket time



The moment of truth....









Cams in









So head almost done, just need to sort rocker cover out, but there has been a slight technicality involving the farm pressure washer and the plastic, nothing that wont be sorted tomorrow, but not quite there today

Thanks for reading