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Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS
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(19-06-2016, 10:33 AM)Paul_13 Wrote: Just been looking at the problems the pd engines have... lol

Mainly cam issues isn't it?

(19-06-2016, 10:00 AM)Ruan Wrote:
(19-06-2016, 07:14 AM)Toms306 Wrote: I wouldn't say the PD fuel system is worse...  Worse for emissions yeah, which is why they can't use it anymore, but power and economy the 1.9PD wins over 2.0HDi any day!  1.9PD still wins over 1.6HDi in both of those areas...

Also what a lot are missing with BHP figures here (it's a diesel, who cares!?) is the torque figure...look at the torque from a stage 1 PD180...I don't know why but those engines manage tonnes of torque really easily!

I still haven't had anything as torquey since the Golf...

Unless you're deaf, the PD is a sack of crap in comparison... They're rougher than XUDs imho, their delivery is way too harsh and PD is realistically no better than a rotary pump, it's only advantage is more pressure...

VNT does give you a wider powerband, it's not all about torque, it's all to do with how good the delivery is... Spend what you would getting a Fabia on changing out the turbo for a VNT unit on a HDi and it'll absolutely spank a PD in terms of delivery... And not sound like a the contents of Halfords in a washing machine.

Problem is, a HDI with a VNT wouldn't last as long as a 1.9PD with a VNT, wouldn't be as reliable either I wouldn't have thought. And the fabia would put the power down better, not just due to the wheels., and would have more power/torque too.
Although it does seem as if the HDI is the better engine, if kept under the 180bhp mark and is rebuilt. Would love a go at a VNT'd HDI 90 compared to a non VNT one, would be worlds apart.
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Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 17-06-2016, 10:47 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 18-06-2016, 08:55 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 18-06-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 18-06-2016, 09:15 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 18-06-2016, 09:47 AM
Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by bashbarnard - 18-06-2016, 10:25 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 18-06-2016, 12:19 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Piggy - 18-06-2016, 11:10 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Orta - 18-06-2016, 12:56 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 18-06-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by welshpug - 18-06-2016, 01:18 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 18-06-2016, 01:20 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 18-06-2016, 01:45 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 18-06-2016, 02:06 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by welshpug - 18-06-2016, 06:50 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Orta - 18-06-2016, 08:06 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Seb_Ryan - 18-06-2016, 11:03 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 18-06-2016, 11:52 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by procta - 19-06-2016, 12:09 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by BiG K - 19-06-2016, 12:49 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 19-06-2016, 07:14 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Ruan - 19-06-2016, 10:00 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Anton - 19-06-2016, 07:24 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 19-06-2016, 07:32 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Anton - 19-06-2016, 08:56 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 19-06-2016, 03:16 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by welshpug - 19-06-2016, 09:13 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Anton - 19-06-2016, 09:26 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Paul_13 - 19-06-2016, 10:33 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 19-06-2016, 12:22 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Ruan - 20-06-2016, 10:45 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Piggy - 19-06-2016, 12:53 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by MY95 - 19-06-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Piggy - 19-06-2016, 01:20 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by toseland - 20-06-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Piggy - 19-06-2016, 03:34 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Anton - 19-06-2016, 03:46 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 19-06-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 20-06-2016, 08:44 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Paul_13 - 20-06-2016, 10:51 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Ruan - 20-06-2016, 11:05 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 20-06-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Ruan - 20-06-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 20-06-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by r3k1355 - 20-06-2016, 01:40 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by rtha6551 - 20-06-2016, 05:04 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Piggy - 20-06-2016, 06:41 PM
Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by bashbarnard - 20-06-2016, 07:07 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Piggy - 20-06-2016, 07:08 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Seb_Ryan - 20-06-2016, 09:38 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by toseland - 21-06-2016, 09:30 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Ruan - 21-06-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by lolsteve - 21-06-2016, 11:55 AM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Toms306 - 21-06-2016, 12:20 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by r3k1355 - 21-06-2016, 02:22 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Piggy - 21-06-2016, 01:19 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by Poodle - 21-06-2016, 01:52 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by toseland - 21-06-2016, 01:45 PM
RE: Keep 306 HDI or buy Fabia VRS - by lolsteve - 21-06-2016, 04:30 PM

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