05-08-2015, 05:24 PM
Welshpug its all very well and good comparing it to a "proper" in your words clutch like a Helix etc...which I dont doubt is fantastic in the world of racing and rallying which you like to go on about...
HOWEVER...most members on here are simply tuning up there own road cars, and do not have the budget for said items...a clutch from Helix that will even LOOK at holding back torque is best part of £500+ and that clutch in itself has problems with standard Peugeot parts. Alot of the cars arnt even worth the cost of the clutch...so unless its a serious project / something alot of time and money is being invested in, its just silly spending that much money...
On the comment regarding not running a paddle in your road car (allanallen) what would you suggest otherwise? Bearing in mind that the tuned diesels around here are making 300+ ft/lbs of torque at the flywheel, I certainly havent come across any standard fitment / aftermarket options in that price bracket which will hold this without a problem?
PERSONALLY (everyone is entitled to there own opinion) but in my opinion, driving an XUD with a 4 paddle un sprung plate from CG, is almost un noticeably different to driving a standard clutch, possibly when cold you might encounter a slight harshness, but otherwise, ask a passenger to tell, and they wouldn't even notice... The clutch's are so small in these cars they dont give that much grief...I had a 6 paddle in an Audi once, which juddered like mad, that was horrible to drive...but clutch diameter is far bigger, which makes it alot worse from my experience.
At the end of the day, unless your invested thousands into your build, then your likely expecting some issues along the way with things failing if you are planning to make big power on a budget... Yes if you want to build it 100% right, and be 100% confident in it, then by all means spend the extra on a big brand clutch, but for your big turbo xud's that cost 100-200 quid to get up to around 200hp, I would be going CG etc myself, cheap and does what it says on the tin mostly.
Im still to decide on a clutch for my car, as trying to do things properly / did have it in my head I would buy something different this time, but must admit, after getting prices for clutchs to handle what I want, I am forced to think again... Worth the risk though for most people IMHO
HOWEVER...most members on here are simply tuning up there own road cars, and do not have the budget for said items...a clutch from Helix that will even LOOK at holding back torque is best part of £500+ and that clutch in itself has problems with standard Peugeot parts. Alot of the cars arnt even worth the cost of the clutch...so unless its a serious project / something alot of time and money is being invested in, its just silly spending that much money...
On the comment regarding not running a paddle in your road car (allanallen) what would you suggest otherwise? Bearing in mind that the tuned diesels around here are making 300+ ft/lbs of torque at the flywheel, I certainly havent come across any standard fitment / aftermarket options in that price bracket which will hold this without a problem?
PERSONALLY (everyone is entitled to there own opinion) but in my opinion, driving an XUD with a 4 paddle un sprung plate from CG, is almost un noticeably different to driving a standard clutch, possibly when cold you might encounter a slight harshness, but otherwise, ask a passenger to tell, and they wouldn't even notice... The clutch's are so small in these cars they dont give that much grief...I had a 6 paddle in an Audi once, which juddered like mad, that was horrible to drive...but clutch diameter is far bigger, which makes it alot worse from my experience.
At the end of the day, unless your invested thousands into your build, then your likely expecting some issues along the way with things failing if you are planning to make big power on a budget... Yes if you want to build it 100% right, and be 100% confident in it, then by all means spend the extra on a big brand clutch, but for your big turbo xud's that cost 100-200 quid to get up to around 200hp, I would be going CG etc myself, cheap and does what it says on the tin mostly.
Im still to decide on a clutch for my car, as trying to do things properly / did have it in my head I would buy something different this time, but must admit, after getting prices for clutchs to handle what I want, I am forced to think again... Worth the risk though for most people IMHO
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