20-02-2013, 11:30 AM
(19-02-2013, 10:03 PM)THE_Liam Wrote:(18-02-2013, 06:24 PM)Toms306 Wrote: But doesnt DSG still use a manual plate clutch? With the auto you can brake to keep spped down and not do any damage with the fluid torque converter, but with a manual gearbox surely youre stuck in 1st and can't brake unless you drop to neutral. I've never driven one so maybe Im just imagining this problem lol. I will say though, I didnt like the auto I had round town, felt like it was gonna stall when you braked to stop then shot off with the lightest touch of the acc pedal, I could see why so many old people have accidents in autos lol. Was nice to cruise in though, its just slow speed that wasnt nice.
Sounds like a shit auto then dude, a properly maintained auto from a company who know how to make good autoboxes is a pleasure around town, even the knackered old Calibra I had was nice, could barely feel it change gear unless it was in sport mode or kickdown. Great in traffic too.
I've got nothing against autos, in the right car (ie luxobarges) their great, and obviously manuals are ace, but all this half and half DSG/Tiptronic/Selespeed bollocks is just a bad compromise. They don't give you the control or satisfaction of a manual, and they aren't as smooth and easy as a nice auto...
Well it was a 150k T plate Vectra...
But honestly it was horrible, even I could change gear smoother (and for anyone thats had the misfortune to passenger with me, that really is saying something haha!). I don't doubt it was a bit f*cked though. The other thing I didn't like was lack of engine braking - I use engine braking a lot and barely touch the footbrake...but coming up to corners, lifting off and realising the car wasn't gonna slow was new to me!
I can see the use of auto for cruising (but then, why not just use criuse control on a manual) but can really see it round town, prefer a clutch myslef - albeit a nice hydraulic one.
