If you two genuinely think you have no difficulty about driving in the snow on normal tyres, then all i can assume is that you have no understanding of what the car is doing underneath you and are numb to inputs from the floor, pedals and steering. And this argument about expense and hassle is dafts, they cost no more than normal tyres. My set cost me £52 a corner for a budget set, and that was before they were widespread, so they were marketed and priced as a specialist item. With regards to hassle, is changing a set of wheels twice a year really that much of an issue?
You're not even reading these posts are you? OR, is it just that you enjoy playing devils advocate, but can't form a cohesive and consistent argument? OR do you realise you've lost, but don't have the sense to back down gracefully...? Lol jus' sayin'... A couple of posts ago you admitted they were preferable in wet AND cold weather (another misconception, it's actually wet OR cold weather), now you're back to insisting they're only any use in the snow... Do keep up dear.
It's not a luxury, you end up saving money due to the better rate of wear. My winter tyres have done at least 10k - probably closer to 12/3k - and have got another couple of thousand in them yet, despite being thrashed to f*ck most of the time. I'd say that's a fairly good rate of wear myself, especially since they cost me no more than a normal set of all weather tyres.
Um, you know basic physics? You know, grip being a product of contact area and frictional value etc...? Also, on a sort-of-related note, have you ever heard of something called confirmational bias?
(16-02-2013, 07:36 PM)C.A.R. Wrote: Well if you guys think you need them then fair play, I can see the attraction of having more grip for a few days of the year when it's slippery out. Personally I can't afford such a luxury and the fact that I have never needed them kind of speaks for itself, they would be a terrible investment.
If we suddenly experience snow bad enough to justify them here in Hertfordshire then I'll eat my pubes...
You're not even reading these posts are you? OR, is it just that you enjoy playing devils advocate, but can't form a cohesive and consistent argument? OR do you realise you've lost, but don't have the sense to back down gracefully...? Lol jus' sayin'... A couple of posts ago you admitted they were preferable in wet AND cold weather (another misconception, it's actually wet OR cold weather), now you're back to insisting they're only any use in the snow... Do keep up dear.
It's not a luxury, you end up saving money due to the better rate of wear. My winter tyres have done at least 10k - probably closer to 12/3k - and have got another couple of thousand in them yet, despite being thrashed to f*ck most of the time. I'd say that's a fairly good rate of wear myself, especially since they cost me no more than a normal set of all weather tyres.
(16-02-2013, 07:51 PM)C.A.R. Wrote: It's a 1-ton fwd hatchback, with skinny tyres. Quite possibly the best tool for slippery weather.
Um, you know basic physics? You know, grip being a product of contact area and frictional value etc...? Also, on a sort-of-related note, have you ever heard of something called confirmational bias?