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I need new brake discs for the rear as mine have little micro cracks in -_-
Anyways Eurocarparts has 3 brands
Eicher for £8.59 per disc
Pagid for £15.99 per disc
Brembos for £16.49 per disc
How much better can they really be? None of them are anything fancy like grooved or fancy coatings or whatever.
Tbh I would be hard pushed to go for the super cheap ones as they sound too good to be true compared to the others. But if I am gonna go for the pagid ones I may as well get the brembos haha.
So really the question is, How much difference is there actually?
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My personal opinion would be that eicher isn't a completely crap brand. Pagid is oem. Drilled and grooved aren't all that and definitely aren't needed on the back. Tbh if you're on a budget I would get the cheapest ones and then use the money to get some decent pads on the front. That way you've got possibly crap rear disks but much better fronts!
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I have heard pagid are good. The brembo's aren't drilled and grooved tbh. I have heard that they can be a bit of a pain with cracks forming round the holes etc.
I am now wondering if mine is a car with the brake pad wear warning thing as I am not sure if they are haha
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Pagid will be fine, as will Eicher TBH on the rear. Avoid Eicher pads though. You won't have a warning wire on the rear.
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I've managed to ruin a few Eicher discs on the front quickly, not had an issue with Pagid ever so tend to stick with them now. On the back it may not be an issue though.
I'd be surprised if you have pad warning cables, never seen any on ph3 HDi's.
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Brembo, anyone that chooses to use those other brands needs their head testing
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I choose to use a different brand, o.e
look up the part numbers and chuck them into ebay, I got a set for £20 last year, pads for £15.
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(04-04-2016, 08:13 AM)Stef205 Wrote: Brembo, anyone that chooses to use those other brands needs their head testing
Yeah, okay. Because oe quality just isn't safe enough.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with eicher, will be completely adequate for a diesel road car.
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I have never had a problem with Pagid discs and pads,they seem to be decent quality !
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Don't forget to chuck the part numbers into Amazon. IIRC, Brembo rear discs are around £20 a pair delivered from Amazon themselves!
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Brembo IMHO is no better than cheap Eicher stuff.
It is NOT the same as what you get from the "top" Brembo stuff, personally had nothing but issues with Brembo branded "OEM" stuff. Not just PSA stuff too, Ford and BMW stuff I've had discs warp for no reason on cars driven by "normal" people who aren't driving like nutters 24/7.
Can't say I've had an issue with Pagid, usually end up putting Pagid on after the other stuff has f*cked up.
Only brands I'd personally use is Bosch, Pagid or OEM.
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Pagid discs it is then cheers
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Another Pagid user here....only because they tend to be cheaper than the Brembos etc and that I've never trusted the Eichers/Textar types after a european road trip in Ant's (PowerandTorque) 205Mi16 (Textar pads on a mountain road = f*ck all stopping power).
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(04-04-2016, 03:15 PM)Ruan Wrote: Brembo IMHO is no better than cheap Eicher stuff.
It is NOT the same as what you get from the "top" Brembo stuff, personally had nothing but issues with Brembo branded "OEM" stuff. Not just PSA stuff too, Ford and BMW stuff I've had discs warp for no reason on cars driven by "normal" people who aren't driving like nutters 24/7.
Can't say I've had an issue with Pagid, usually end up putting Pagid on after the other stuff has f*cked up.
Only brands I'd personally use is Bosch, Pagid or OEM.
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Got pagid discs all round and they take some abuse, pagid pads too.. hardly any fade unless I am reaaaaallllyyy pushing it hard
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Brilliant. When the pads are gone I will get a full set of them as well cheers
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If I am reading your last post correctly - it is usually worth fitting new pads with new discs !
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The pads weren't dont long ago at all on the car. Still loads left at the moment :/ Just the person who did the rear pads never noticed the fact the discs were Shaqqed as well -_-
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Pagids are great, Eicher discs are usually okay, as Alan says though, avoid Textar pads like the plague. My only real brown trouser moment in a car was shortly after having some Textars fitted whilst away on holiday....I had two feet on the brake pedal trying to stop!
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Pagid all the way, always use Pagid on the front and they always last me a longgggg time, use Eicher on the rear and discs warp very easily and pads don't last very long at all (even with brand new callipers) so im going to start using Pagid all round from now on. Pagid also comes with some special coating, whereas eicher does not.
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That's just to stop corrosion, won't affect your braking power, at least not after the first few stops.
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Yeah the coating is to stop corrosion, you should always give them a spray with brake cleaner and wipe them down before fitting
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To clear up here, newer discs come with the silver coating, it supposedly helps the bedding in process. The older way or the oily coating that needs thoroughly cleaning off.
Stay clear of Borg and beck at the moment, having some issues with warping discs!
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(05-04-2016, 09:20 AM)allye Wrote: To clear up here, newer discs come with the silver coating, it supposedly helps the bedding in process. The older way or the oily coating that needs thoroughly cleaning off.
Stay clear of Borg and beck at the moment, having some issues with warping discs!
didn't know that, mine have always had like a light film of oil on them . .
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(04-04-2016, 09:39 PM)Rippthrough Wrote: Pagids are great, Eicher discs are usually okay, as Alan says though, avoid Textar pads like the plague. My only real brown trouser moment in a car was shortly after having some Textars fitted whilst away on holiday....I had two feet on the brake pedal trying to stop!
I vaguely recall Anthony doing the same....We couldn't believe that a set of new pads could be that shite, so re-bled the brakes several times over that trip with little improvement. Absolutely terrible pads, and will continue to avoid for the foreseeable future!
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(05-04-2016, 09:50 AM)Alan_M Wrote: I vaguely recall Anthony doing the same....We couldn't believe that a set of new pads could be that shite, so re-bled the brakes several times over that trip with little improvement. Absolutely terrible pads, and will continue to avoid for the foreseeable future!
Indeed, I was checking over the car a couple of days before the trip and saw the front pads were fairly worn so grabbed the only thing that GSF had in stock. I was rather more naive then and figured that given it was a 205 with GTi-6 brakes then for road use some pattern pads should be fine. How wrong I was.
We knew that we were in for some fun when we were getting brake fade going up the mountain pass on the first day...
Remember kids, Textar pads are bad, mmkay?
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(05-04-2016, 09:20 AM)allye Wrote: To clear up here, newer discs come with the silver coating, it supposedly helps the bedding in process. The older way or the oily coating that needs thoroughly cleaning off.
Stay clear of Borg and beck at the moment, having some issues with warping discs!
Silver Pagid discs ftw!
Also stops the 'hub' part and the edges corroding for ages unlike oiled discs.
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funny that Anthony, in a 1.9 caliper I found Textar to be perfectly fine, they make a lot of the o.e peugeot/citroen pads too.
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