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Today I failed massively at removing the dreaded Crankshaft Pulley bolt. I was armed with a brand new 1000w 450NM Impact Gun and a car wheel breaker bar (not ideal as it was cheapo one). Can you link me to some tools you guys have had success with as I am going to have another go Friday coming.....or taking it to a garage to use a air impact gun.
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18v snapon 450 lbft 1/2" drive impact gun with a fresh battery.
or a 36" breaker bar.
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Mains powered ~450Nm impact gun.
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3 ft breaker bar for the crank bolt and a crow bar locking the wheel bolts to the road and Yoink!
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29-03-2015, 07:54 PM
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I really don't get how my new impact gun did nothing then :/ mines mains powered and is a Clarke cew1000 got it from machine mart. The bushes are in new condition too.
(29-03-2015, 07:03 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Mains powered ~450Nm impact gun. How long did it take the bolt to come off with that mate? Sounds similar to mine.
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Yeah its the same one.
Didn't take long at all, few seconds, not long enough for me to think it was a long time anyway lol.
I've removed quite a few with it, but have had just one on a HDi that I couldn't get off...but I think that one must've been over-tightened with a bigger gun before I got to it as I couldn't get it off with a breaker bar or anything!! Maybe the same has happened to yours. 
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Starter motor and T-bar on the 406, T-bar and extending wheel brace on everything else. ( warm engine first)
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Whereabout in Nottinghamshire are you? I did my bro's recently (when i wasn't prewarned to bring my gun) with a breaker bar, and someone with their foot hard on the brakes in 5th.
Welcome to pop in to mine in Rugby if you want to. I have a Snap on CT6850 that's never failed to shift anything - 840Nm breakaway and 475 sustained. I don't even bother to charge the battery before a big job. 
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same as my gun, its a very popular unit.
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450nm is shag all, the good ones will be 1000+
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All the good ones cost considerably more than the £40 when I bought mine lol!  Only ever come across one bolt it wouldn't shift and nothing on a road car should be more than 450Nm anyway tbh.
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Where did you find a mains power one Tom?!
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(29-03-2015, 08:04 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Yeah its the same one.
Didn't take long at all, few seconds, not long enough for me to think it was a long time anyway lol.
I've removed quite a few with it, but have had just one on a HDi that I couldn't get off...but I think that one must've been over-tightened with a bigger gun before I got to it as I couldn't get it off with a breaker bar or anything!! Maybe the same has happened to yours.
I feel your on the money mate :/ I imagine it must have been replaced before now. There is even a YouTube video showing the sake gun on the same engine and it takes like 5 to 10 seconds.
(29-03-2015, 08:14 PM)Uberderv Wrote: Starter motor and T-bar on the 406, T-bar and extending wheel brace on everything else. ( warm engine first) Thanks for the suggestion mate I just don't have the confidence to do that with it yet lol. I'd be paranoid to hell. Lol
(29-03-2015, 08:15 PM)C2K Wrote: Whereabout in Nottinghamshire are you? I did my bro's recently (when i wasn't prewarned to bring my gun) with a breaker bar, and someone with their foot hard on the brakes in 5th.
Welcome to pop in to mine in Rugby if you want to. I have a Snap on CT6850 that's never failed to shift anything - 840Nm breakaway and 475 sustained. I don't even bother to charge the battery before a big job.
I am around the Worksop area mate. Thank you for the kind offer and if I don't get it cracked Friday I will be taking you up on the offer I feel.
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(29-03-2015, 09:02 PM)Piggy Wrote: Where did you find a mains power one Tom?!
Machine Mart. They still sell it but it's about £60 now I think.
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https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ...SRC-impact
It seems a good bit of kit overall I just have a stubborn car lol
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Ingersol rand W7150 will shift it. I usually use my 600nm SIP air gun and its never failed me.
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(29-03-2015, 09:06 PM)C2K Wrote: Whereabout in Nottinghamshire are you? I did my bro's recently (when i wasn't prewarned to bring my gun) with a breaker bar, and someone with their foot hard on the brakes in 5th.
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Welcome to pop in to mine in Rugby if you want to. I have a Snap on CT6850 that's never failed to shift anything - 840Nm breakaway and 475 sustained. I don't even bother to charge the battery before a big job.
I am around the Worksop area mate. Thank you for the kind offer and if I don't get it cracked Friday I will be taking you up on the offer I feel.
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Fair old way away then, be a shame to have to come down here but you're more than welcome if you're in the sticky stuff.
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(29-03-2015, 11:26 PM)td163 Wrote: https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ...SRC-impact
It seems a good bit of kit overall I just have a stubborn car lol
I used that very same one. It loosened the bolt in seconds. My son stood on the brakes with 5th gear enagaged.
Good luck with it. I hate it when things don't go according to plan.
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The starter motor!
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(30-03-2015, 11:00 AM)C2K Wrote: (29-03-2015, 09:06 PM)C2K Wrote: Whereabout in Nottinghamshire are you? I did my bro's recently (when i wasn't prewarned to bring my gun) with a breaker bar, and someone with their foot hard on the brakes in 5th.
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Welcome to pop in to mine in Rugby if you want to. I have a Snap on CT6850 that's never failed to shift anything - 840Nm breakaway and 475 sustained. I don't even bother to charge the battery before a big job.
I am around the Worksop area mate. Thank you for the kind offer and if I don't get it cracked Friday I will be taking you up on the offer I feel.
Fair old way away then, be a shame to have to come down here but you're more than welcome if you're in the sticky stuff.
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Thank you mate, i'll keep everyone updated how I get on Friday...fingers crossed it will be a better day lol.
(30-03-2015, 07:50 PM)steve1001 Wrote: (29-03-2015, 11:26 PM)td163 Wrote: https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ...SRC-impact
It seems a good bit of kit overall I just have a stubborn car lol
I used that very same one. It loosened the bolt in seconds. My son stood on the brakes with 5th gear enagaged.
Good luck with it. I hate it when things don't go according to plan.
Steve
I have no clue why I couldn't shift it the other day it would not even move an inch and I did the same method...car in 5th and dad on the brakes :/ only thing is I was attempting to do the job with a hot engine and I was wondering as metal expands maybe that was enough to seal the bolt in there??? who knows. Lets see what Friday brings with a cold engine and another dose of enthusiasm hahaha.
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Hot engine should help free it off if anything.
Usually find you need a scaffold pole with your breaker bar on these.
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I just used a spanner....
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it is april 1st and before noon  no offence but how long was it?? the spanner I mean not the fish  or is that the dogs leg
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It was a halfords double ended, closed ring spanner. I'd say it's probably about 15 inches long.
I guess I was lucky. Mine came off very easy
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(01-04-2015, 05:43 AM)Poodle Wrote: Hot engine should help free it off if anything.
Usually find you need a scaffold pole with your breaker bar on these.
As far as I was aware when metal is hot it expands...surely that would mean the bolt would expand although only a very little that would make it stiffer to remove??
Or am I all kindsa' wrong? lol.
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Not far from me.
There's a few of us in Nottingham now with a wide range of 306s, few are mechanics who would love to help you out.
Keep a eye out we have quite a few meets, specially now summer has kicked in.
I use the pikey method, break bar on bolt and quickly crank the engine.
Never failed me yet.
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(01-04-2015, 11:37 PM)kentiiboii Wrote: Not far from me.
There's a few of us in Nottingham now with a wide range of 306s, few are mechanics who would love to help you out.
Keep a eye out we have quite a few meets, specially now summer has kicked in.
I use the pikey method, break bar on bolt and quickly crank the engine.
Never failed me yet.
Hi dude, that sounds good I'd be up for dropping into a few meets introduce myself and all. My friend would want too as well I imagine dhdcdarchy on the forum.
That method may have to be used if it comes to it. Could you explain in a little more depth what exactly I'd need to do? Do I put the breaker bar against the subframe?
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(01-04-2015, 09:50 PM)td163 Wrote: As far as I was aware when metal is hot it expands...surely that would mean the bolt would expand although only a very little that would make it stiffer to remove??
Or am I all kindsa' wrong? lol.
I think you've probably overlooked the fact the whole engine is made from metal.
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(01-04-2015, 08:18 PM)Matt Wrote: It was a halfords double ended, closed ring spanner. I'd say it's probably about 15 inches long.
I guess I was lucky. Mine came off very easy
Lucky the pulley didn't fall off if the bolt was that loose!!  It's supposed to be tight, over 300Nm iirc, no way you'd get that off with just a normal spanner lol.
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