Top mount in a 306 with a td04 and 11mm pump will it cope with cooling?
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Top mount in a 306 with a td04 and 11mm pump will it cope with cooling?
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25-09-2014, 06:10 PM
Just a quick question.
Would a top mount intercooler in a 306 cope with a td04 turbo and 11mm pump? This is basically vs a front mount intercooler and loads more lag 
Front mount all the way. You say "lag" but it's moving more air than a standard turbo. TD04's aren't the quickest spoolers either tbf.
About the TMIC, it would work just not very efficiently. 9mm/Bosch/TD04 set ups can run TMIC's but they heat soak quickly so imagine what an 11mm would do...
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25-09-2014, 07:22 PM
I know Lewis who ran a 9mm td04 and a tmic and it did heat soak very quickly after Abit of bastard. I would've thought fmic would be the way forward
25-09-2014, 07:34 PM
top mount ics are just silly imo got a 30% bigger (or around that) grs intercooler on my mini which if you dont know is directly scoop fed and still get 15 degrees above ambient would shoot up to 30+ after a hoon!
front mount all the way! 
26-09-2014, 10:57 PM
TBF the stock intercoolers are crap. The whole "increased lag" thing - meh frankly, if you're on the route of reducing lag to points you can barely perceive like worrying over TMIC vs FMIC... The turbo is the first thing I'd be looking at, not the pipework/IC. Fitting a turbo with a better A/R and reduced rotating mass will make more difference to threshold and lag than any pipework ever will..
Put it this way - if you were to actually put a price in terms of performance on either... The minutely increased lag would be so heavilly outweighed by the fact the charge temperature isn't a trillion degrees after bringing it on boost twice, you'd quickly go down the route of keeping the charge cool... Just don't strap the back of a refrigerator to the front of your car and don't use 4" pipework and it'll be fine. 
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28-09-2014, 06:51 AM
No Dave.... Just no....lol..
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