police

[procta]

I am surprised he got fined, as my dad only got a warning that was it. anyway no one is perfect, after all it keeps everyone on their metal. About seat belts, as my dad can be still not bother at times!

[Pete]

Been warned one or twice for no belts, admittedly it's a bad habit of mine in the van... Should know better aswell seeing as one probably saved my life when I rolled my first car.

[Razorback_Rob]

I have to say I'm guilty of forgetting now and then. I'm a multi drop delivery driver and constantly am moving just a few feet to do my next delivery. Get in the van to do a long drive and realise I haven't belted up. Doing my best to remember now! Damn habit

[DazzaHDI]

Ive gone past many a copper without my belt on and most the time they don't even look, ive only ever had one pull on there belt asif to say put it on. So unlucky with your ticket

Because you want to test the strength of your face vs steering wheel!!?!

But airbag cuddles are nice and warm.

I don't even have airbags
It's because my seat is broke and it's stuck in the furthest position away from everything it can be, so when I have my belt I feel abit restricted :/

[thebluepearl]

Yes pressed plates are on with French badge and not a single mention he even double took the plate on rear as the height he was looking at them he couldn't make out 1 of the letters he put an o instead of a u and corrected it

[Toms306]

I dont see how forgetting your seatbelt is an accident either!?

Its not like you dont wear one before you learn to drive!!?

Have you never forgotten your phone, watch or wallet because you're late or worried or something? The things you take with you every single day...

I forget which gear is where or which pedal does what half the time! Maybe that's just me though, early onset Alzheimer's haha.

I don't even have airbags
It's because my seat is broke and it's stuck in the furthest position away from everything it can be, so when I have my belt I feel abit restricted :/

Excellent answer!

Your seat frame will completely collapse in an accident so belts and 'bags are futile tbh.

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Yes pressed plates are on with French badge and not a single mention he even double took the plate on rear as the height he was looking at them he couldn't make out 1 of the letters he put an o instead of a u and corrected it

Now if you had got a fine for that, fair game haha. Pressed plates are now legal, as the laws changed to say 'retroflective material' rather than plastic construction....but not in the wrong font and with a foreign badge lol.

[Razorback_Rob]

From what I read 3 points will be on seatbelt, tailgating, inconsiderate driving (pushing Infront, not looking when pulling out of junctions etc) as well as a fine soon.

Yeah I heard it was coming for seat belts.
As for tailgating and inconsiderate driving they'll need to create some new offences before they start giving people fines and points for it lol.

Maybe it's just. £100 fine for tailgating Etc. It doesn't give a table of expected outcomes but here's the article: http://www.perrys.co.uk/car-news/news/ca...ant-fines/

[Piggy]

May sound silly but I would rather have a window smashed by the cops and replace it for free myself than have a fine,points, a marker on the car and a huge insurance premium hike!

[Matt-Rallye]

So hold on let me get this straight..

Piggy had the windows done in by the bomb squad??

Unlucky about the ticket fella, i keep getting fines for 'non standard exhaust system'

Herefordshire traffic cops are absolute bellends though. they are legendary for it!

[Toms306]

Yep...but it's ok, he didn't get a fine or points...he just wasted a lot of police time instead when they could've been out catching these terrible seatbelt forgetters!

How many exhaust fines have you got? Surely it's not worth the hassle, might as well just refit the standard exhaust lol!

[Piggy]

I do love the cops round here...non existent and if they are they are just local bobbies dealing with little local issues. I might see one cop a month in this area!
Hereford cops were/are muppets.


My defence to the wasting of the bomb squads time was that if they properly trained, IE with common sense, they would know what liquids are and look like. Dumbasses. If it smells like veg oil, looks like veg oil, has the viscosity of veg oil, has a lable saying veg oil....then its probably veg oil. They did highlight I hadnt broken any laws mind...so

[Razorback_Rob]

I do love the cops round here...non existent and if they are they are just local bobbies dealing with little local issues. I might see one cop a month in this area!
Hereford cops were/are muppets.


My defence to the wasting of the bomb squads time was that if they properly trained, IE with common sense, they would know what liquids are and look like. Dumbasses. If it smells like veg oil, looks like veg oil, has the viscosity of veg oil, has a lable saying veg oil....then its probably veg oil. They did highlight I hadnt broken any laws mind...so

"Muppets" is being quite polite there

[Piggy]

I have had chats with a few traffic and beat cops in Hereford, I did get pulled a few times for "random checks", all fine. But they always pick on you for no reason....

Like I owned a FTO Mivec for a while....I got pulled so many times, because how dare I own one when I am young... "you're too young to own and insure that mate, take a seat in the back of my patrol car"....20min wasted later and I am on my way again!

[thebluepearl]

Same when I had my xr3i 10 years ago, always stopped for random checks the amount of producer receipts I've got is unreal off the top of my head 30-40 they couldn't get their heads around the fact it wasn't stolen and everything was legal including my raspy STANDARD bosal exhaust system but hey that was when there was lots of policemen who had plenty of time to waste including mine

[Toms306]

I don't understand why so many young people get stopped for being young in 'nice' cars. I'm the most shifty looking guy ever, mostly driven 'nice' cars, and usually modded/smoky and so far haven't been stopped once. I'm dreading getting stopped though, and it will happen one day, I just know I'll panic and end up confessing to a murder or something, and no doubt it'll be when 'I'm only speeding cos I need a poo'. As you've just proved, you don't have to be breaking the law to get stopped, which is what I don't really agree with tbf.

[Orta]

I've been stopped three times all when I had my highly modified fabia vrs. Never been stopped in my standard cars. Strange that. Wasn't driving any different...

[Dum-Dum]

My defence to the wasting of the bomb squads time was that if they properly trained, IE with common sense, they would know what liquids are and look like. Dumbasses. If it smells like veg oil, looks like veg oil, has the viscosity of veg oil, has a lable saying veg oil....then its probably veg oil. They did highlight I hadnt broken any laws mind...so

Lesson 1 in dealing with suspicious liquids - don't f*cking sniff or inhale the damn stuff.

Lesson 2 in dealing with suspicious liquids - don't believe the label.

Also they were never going to find it looked/smelled/tasted/behaved like veg oil till they had broken the window

[bashbarnard]

At the end of the day police are there to do a job. Asuch as we moan about them they arent that bad. I had a friend who lived in south africa and got out of serious trouble with two kfcs!!

[Piggy]

My defence to the wasting of the bomb squads time was that if they properly trained, IE with common sense, they would know what liquids are and look like. Dumbasses. If it smells like veg oil, looks like veg oil, has the viscosity of veg oil, has a lable saying veg oil....then its probably veg oil. They did highlight I hadnt broken any laws mind...so

Lesson 1 in dealing with suspicious liquids - don't f*cking sniff or inhale the damn stuff.

Lesson 2 in dealing with suspicious liquids - don't believe the label.

Also they were never going to find it looked/smelled/tasted/behaved like veg oil till they had broken the window

So how do they tell what is a naughty liquid and what is a good liquid??

Considering that a 1 litre bottle of a certain liquid could flatten 1/4 square mile.

So should we not leave ANY liquids in sight now if we park in london.

Boot and one rear door wasnt even locked......major fail on my part there....C/L gone dicky and not fixed it!

And why the sodding drivers window...not the rear quarter window or rear passenger?? If they honestly thought it was a bomb, they would have blown it to bits under a controlled explosion. So it clearly wasnt that serious...common sense would have gone a LONG way!!!!

Including them finding a loyalty card, and trying to contact me via that (which was my home number!!!??? - because I would park in London and still be at home in the Cotswolds - which they knew is where it was registered to), rather than maybe ringing my mobile which was on about 100 business cards in the doorcards/center console/glovebox with my name on!? Or ring insurance database, find insurer, get number, ring me.

I'm not delcaring all innocence...but an ounce of common sense would have saved SO much trouble.
I did apologise and still feel bad for wasting police time, it does annoy me that I did that.





aaaaanyway...back on topic.


Get in your car. Leave your phone alone and put ya seatbelt on. You're driving a killing machine.....would you walk around holding a gun up pointing in random places through a town with the safety off and texting at the same time??

[kentiiboii]

I got done last night for driving without due care and attention... Over took a corsa doing 40mph in a national speed limit, got to pay to do the awareness course.
Guttering but hold my hands up to it!

[Seb_Ryan]

I got done last night for driving without due care and attention... Over took a corsa doing 40mph in a national speed limit, got to pay to do the awareness course.
Guttering but hold my hands up to it!

What was their explanation though? If the corsa was doing 40 in a 60 your fine to overtake as long as nothing is coming the other way?

[Dum-Dum]

So how do they tell what is a naughty liquid and what is a good liquid??
Easy, take a sample and analyse it. There are analysers that identify stuff in minutes


Considering that a 1 litre bottle of a certain liquid could flatten 1/4 square mile.
Yes but the likely hood of that sort of stuff being procured or made by terrorists is lower than something easy to get hold of that wont arouse suspicion (anarchists cook book, home made napalm)


So should we not leave ANY liquids in sight now if we park in london.
Potentially no, especially not near locations of significance, also don't leave large quantities of nails, screws, ball bearings, gas canisters etc on your back seat either.


Boot and one rear door wasnt even locked......major fail on my part there....C/L gone dicky and not fixed it!
To the suspicious mind a trap to get stupid police officers to open the door and trip the device


And why the sodding drivers window...not the rear quarter window or rear passenger?? If they honestly thought it was a bomb, they would have blown it to bits under a controlled explosion. So it clearly wasnt that serious...common sense would have gone a LONG way!!!!
Drivers door window would be my choice as its the least likely to of been booby trapped by the person who left what your assuming to be a car bomb there as they'd normally leave the car by that door.


Including them finding a loyalty card, and trying to contact me via that (which was my home number!!!??? - because I would park in London and still be at home in the Cotswolds - which they knew is where it was registered to), rather than maybe ringing my mobile which was on about 100 business cards in the doorcards/center console/glovebox with my name on!? Or ring insurance database, find insurer, get number, ring me.
a)someone else may be at home, they might not know where the area code was from, you may have your home phone diverting to your mobile?
b) the business cards could be a deliberate trap, mobile phones are very very easy to wire into detonators.
c) would be a FIOA request to get your phone number from the insurance companies and that takes time and needs a fax machine if the insurance company is even open at the time.

I'm not delcaring all innocence...but an ounce of common sense would have saved SO much trouble.
I did apologise and still feel bad for wasting police time, it does annoy me that I did that.
The thing is if your the officers there and you genuinely believe it to be a bomb then after clearing people away from it your first worry is how and when is this thing detonated and what you can do to make sure it doesn't go off with you standing anywhere near it especially when you bear in mind that many terrorist groups consider the military, and emergency services to be more legitimate targets than "innocent" members of the public.





aaaaanyway...back on topic.

Back on topic?
Here?
Are you mad?

[Toms306]

Overtaking is legal. Doing 40 in a 60 is legal.

Which part was lacking care or attention?

[Seb_Ryan]

So how do they tell what is a naughty liquid and what is a good liquid??
Easy, take a sample and analyse it. There are analysers that identify stuff in minutes


Considering that a 1 litre bottle of a certain liquid could flatten 1/4 square mile.
Yes but the likely hood of that sort of stuff being procured or made by terrorists is lower than something easy to get hold of that wont arouse suspicion (anarchists cook book, home made napalm)


So should we not leave ANY liquids in sight now if we park in london.
Potentially no, especially not near locations of significance, also don't leave large quantities of nails, screws, ball bearings, gas canisters etc on your back seat either.


Boot and one rear door wasnt even locked......major fail on my part there....C/L gone dicky and not fixed it!
To the suspicious mind a trap to get stupid police officers to open the door and trip the device


And why the sodding drivers window...not the rear quarter window or rear passenger?? If they honestly thought it was a bomb, they would have blown it to bits under a controlled explosion. So it clearly wasnt that serious...common sense would have gone a LONG way!!!!
Drivers door window would be my choice as its the least likely to of been booby trapped by the person who left what your assuming to be a car bomb there as they'd normally leave the car by that door.


Including them finding a loyalty card, and trying to contact me via that (which was my home number!!!??? - because I would park in London and still be at home in the Cotswolds - which they knew is where it was registered to), rather than maybe ringing my mobile which was on about 100 business cards in the doorcards/center console/glovebox with my name on!? Or ring insurance database, find insurer, get number, ring me.
a)someone else may be at home, they might not know where the area code was from, you may have your home phone diverting to your mobile?
b) the business cards could be a deliberate trap, mobile phones are very very easy to wire into detonators.
c) would be a FIOA request to get your phone number from the insurance companies and that takes time and needs a fax machine if the insurance company is even open at the time.

I'm not delcaring all innocence...but an ounce of common sense would have saved SO much trouble.
I did apologise and still feel bad for wasting police time, it does annoy me that I did that.
The thing is if your the officers there and you genuinely believe it to be a bomb then after clearing people away from it your first worry is how and when is this thing detonated and what you can do to make sure it doesn't go off with you standing anywhere near it especially when you bear in mind that many terrorist groups consider the military, and emergency services to be more legitimate targets than "innocent" members of the public.





aaaaanyway...back on topic.

Back on topic?
Here?
Are you mad?

Fair play chris..

Common sense eh piggy? :p

[Piggy]

Yeah common sense you power hungry on a power trip excited to show off your explosives bomb disposal "expert"!

If they assumed all those were traps...then they should have blown the car. Breaking the window creates a MASSIVE pressure change inside....STUPIDEST idea EVER if you suspect explosives or a trap!!

[kentiiboii]

Overtaking is legal. Doing 40 in a 60 is legal.

Which part was lacking care or attention?

It was between 2 ballads and the car on coming was a unmarked copper...
But it was with plenty of distance.

I got done last night for driving without due care and attention... Over took a corsa doing 40mph in a national speed limit, got to pay to do the awareness course.
Guttering but hold my hands up to it!

What was their explanation though? If the corsa was doing 40 in a 60 your fine to overtake as long as nothing is coming the other way?

[Piggy]

Between 2 ballads?

[Toms306]

Between Belinda Carlisle and Bonnie Tyler I'm guessing....must've been a damn long overtake!

[Niall]

Yeah common sense you power hungry on a power trip excited to show off your explosives bomb disposal "expert"!

If they assumed all those were traps...then they should have blown the car. Breaking the window creates a MASSIVE pressure change inside....STUPIDEST idea EVER if you suspect explosives or a trap!!

So, lets say all that liquid was an explosive. It could well be diffused by the proper methods but instead you want to explode it?

[toseland]

i must say, there are quite a few numerous explosives that look, potentially smell, and have the consistency of veg oil...

i am with dumdum on this one, if someone parked a car full of an ominsous liquid on my street if i lived in london, i would be asking questions too