MG ZR: Cams & Maps

[lolsteve]

you pocket any odds and sods for it?

Naa, couldn't think of anything I needed they were all 1.4's anyway apart from 1 blue Zs. Having said that the one zr there did have all the brackets for it's side skirts intact just a shame this isn't a place you can easily pocket stuff as the guy keeps checking up on you.

Remmber going to the scrappy with mates after college every friday and checking every car for aftermarket door speakers

Haha ever find any?

Nuff said

why do you think I have a nosmokenopoke sticker on my rear bumper?
#sammastroll

[procta]

just whip the brackets off, and put them in the back of the scrap car, then when he's away. put them in the old pocket. simple as.
also odds and sods, like brackets that are better con than yours, are worth having anyway, even spare screws etc. the amount of metros I robbed before they were all crushed, I have lost count!
also seeing a 1.8 rover a scrappy is quite rare mind, but keep your eye on the ZRs as you mite see one, remember the 1.8s had rear discs! also for your engine, look at the mgfs the 2000 players onwards, just for spare sensors and other odds and sods.

[lolsteve]

Ah good point, although the skirts are now tigersealed on so they're not going anywhere soon and ill be getting a cordless too so will put in some screws for added security. I might do that sensor idea when i get south as the scrappy there has more higher end models rather than base model 1.4 25's

Received my galletto today although having trouble getting it to work, the program does list the zr 160 which is a bonus but I guess since i'm on a windows 7 laptop it'll be causing some trouble.
I put the cd in then plugged in the cable to which is said it couldn't find drivers, then tried to run what I think is the drivers software but it has trouble installing and then when I try and run the software it cannot read
Any ideas? I know people on here have their gallettos work with 7 and even 8

[procta]

how do you think I built my metro back up from bits from a bag and half stripped out shell, You rob any posh rover for any decent bits and bits that are better than yours! as yours will end up like the metros, all the good ones will stay on the road, and f*ck all will be in scrappies, Or even worse, just bailed straight away.
A few up here in north east motor salvage, but I think they are only 1.4s and the odd old vvc 25 gti. but for some reason the higher ones just get bailed with in weeks, and the 1.4 ones just stay there for ages. But then again, they do want half of the earth for parts! I could put you in touch with a rover spares dealer up here, if you need it, and as he will be more helpful to you than to me. As he doesn't deal with metros, in fact, I think the last time he had one in would have been 4 years ago now. He said people just scrap them sadly, which is a shame!

[C2K]

I never really rated the UJ tbh, on my 220T it was 17 years old and still fine. I ground the rivets out on the joint itself and replaced them with M6 studs and lock-nuts which took all the slop out. Was better after that. Terrible design.

[lolsteve]

how do you think I built my metro back up from bits from a bag and half stripped out shell, You rob any posh rover for any decent bits....

Good points, you've reminded me that I need new interior door handles as the plastic cover has broken off on both of mine (apparently a not too uncommon feature due to the harsher suspension) Will have to start robing the posh 200's for all theyre worth, if I see any metros ever though I'll let you know in case something you need

I never really rated the UJ tbh, on my 220T it was 17 years old and still fine. I ground the rivets out on the joint itself and replaced them with M6 studs and lock-nuts which took all the slop out. Was better after that. Terrible design.

They seem a pretty bad design, which surprises me they never changed it since it had been in use for ages
Is this similar to what you did? Selling these on ebay for £27


I just got myself this for £10 , just need some axle stands and a junior hack saw now

[C2K]

Yes I did that but my bushes were healthy, it's the pins that go. Changing that made a huge difference.

When you intend to fit that joint, make sure the shaft is the same size! Before you cut...

[procta]

make sure its welded on too, not bolted it on! if you hang fire. I can get snaps of mine. when I get the chance to get under the car.

[lolsteve]

MOT on April 9th so here's hoping she passes so I can get on with things now Combe is round the corner and uni deadlines are beginning to wrap up.

Sister is coming to visit on the 9th as well and hopefully she'll be bringing up my new janspeed manifold +decat pipe with her so I can get that put on and get someone to weld me on a universal sports cat

The UJ still needs changing, tried recently but the pin holding it in is stuck and I couldn't hit it with enough force to get it out

Reading more stuff online and it seems offset dowels are a thing with these as one of the main people for tuning these claims the vvc is about 4-6 degrees retarded so a dowel on both the inlet and exhaust cam would fix that, just need to find someone to make them since the guy has put out blueprints for people to make their own as he doesn't do it anymore.

Also have a spare exhaust cam lying around which piper used to regrind as a upgraded part but now just sell full replacements for higher dollar. Looking for a place now to regrind it as apparently it goes really well with the dowels.

Would like to at least get to combe with the janspeed,uj and maybe a map all on for combe as a warm up for the summer
http://www.s262612653.websitehome.co.uk/...kdowel.htm

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Yes I did that but my bushes were healthy, it's the pins that go. Changing that made a huge difference.

When you intend to fit that joint, make sure the shaft is the same size! Before you cut...

Checked and it seems to match up fine
I gave the uj on there a push and the bushes seem like they've compressed so it can be pushed up n down and twisted alot

[procta]

steve, id make sure the engine is up and running spot on before even thinking on playing with the engine.

[lolsteve]

This post will no doubt make some of you clap you hands and scream I told you so

On the hunt for the oil leak (the only advisory for the mot) I took off the cambelt cover and started the engine watching for any leaking oil. What I found though is a small but steady dripping of water from what looks like..the head gasket area
Checking under the car confirmed the coolant leak location as a puddle began to form.
First video skip to about 00:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBEuR_XNUX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcDp7uKeepI

[procta]

I just hope this hasn't had a bodged head gasket done! with what happened to me, It wouldn't surprise me!

[devils_fuel]

Oh mate

[Alee83]

Dude, that sucks...! Take it it won't see Combe!!

[306Dan]

10 months of people taking the piss about the head gasket, you've not done too bad

[lolsteve]

I just hope this hasn't had a bodged head gasket done! with what happened to me, It wouldn't surprise me!

Me too, in fairness it seems the least damaging form of HGF so long as I keep on topping up/dont run engine without coolant

Dude, that sucks...! Take it it won't see Combe!!

Oh no it's still going to combe, I've paid for ticket and track not letting that go to waste Just going to get a few bottles of water from asda before heading off

10 months of people taking the piss about the head gasket, you've not done too bad

Yea and it was done 6 months before I bought it. It's going to need replacing, luckily it seems an easy enough job on these engines. Good thing I'll have 3 weeks spare after exams finish with nothing to do
It also outlived alot of xuds, one of the neighbours got chatting with me yesterday when I asked where his 306 was he said the head had gone

[Danny2009]

Bet it had the old style gasket fitted not a hard job to do

And Flol! At the title

[devils_fuel]

Steve do not continue run the engine if the HG has gone, this may warp the head and affect other parts of the cooling system like water pump etc.

Rovers are renown for these issues, so I would get the

water pump off and check it.
get thermostat out and check it.
Flush the cooling system out

[Piggy]

Yeah, as said, dont run it or even think of ragging it like that. Could fry your engine.

Dont mean to sound harsh, but that engine sounds rougher than my 2.1 when its cold....eek

[procta]

Yeah, as said, dont run it or even think of ragging it like that. Could fry your engine.

Dont mean to sound harsh, but that engine sounds rougher than my 2.1 when its cold....eek

piggy they do sound like that as normal, the ticking noise is the vvc system.
mine does,
you do get some proper noisy vvc systems,

steve, do not do that, get it fixed straight away! best off sorting it now, before it does fail, as it will be expensive!

[7057sam]

Don't listen to them steve blow it to bits then can buy a real car

On a seriously note probably wouldn't be the best idea to track it

[procta]

Don't listen to them steve blow it to bits then can buy a proper rover like proctas

On a seriously note probably wouldn't be the best idea to track it

cheers sam!

[lolsteve]

Bet it had the old style gasket fitted not a hard job to do

And Flol! At the title

Hope not, been watching some videos on how to do it and it doesn't seem a bad job. Maybe a good excuse to refurb the head a bit with some new oil seals when im finished with uni. Do we think it would be possible to make a northern meet of it?
Also would it be worth it to include the new oil rail?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200892316625?s...1423.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGF-MGTF-MGZR-...1c29acf9bc

Glad you like the title

And to those saying "don't track it" I've waited too long for combe and need to destress after a major group project, a job interview and dissertation.

[Poodle]

That's a shitter man, perfect excuse to turbo it after you cook it at combe.

[306Dan]

if its had the head done in the past then i'd recommend you go for the rail as there only good for 3 uses,head gaskets not a hard job to do on these engines youve just got to remember their a linered engine really

[lolsteve]

Some further reading suggests the oil rail was only need on the freelander due to the extra stress caused by the heavier car. However as a preventative measure it might be worth the investment then, especially if the original is only good for a few uses.

Been watching videos on how to do it and it does seem simple enough to do, just need a torque wrench and cam locking tool.
While I doubt it'll be getting turbo'd its a nice excuse to clean the head up a bit, maybe port and polish. Anyone have the know how or tools to do that? Would it be hard?

[306Dan]

since having one fail on my zs 1.8t i change them all the time on other peoples cars and only use rimmer bros for the parts as ive had too many other makes that fails too quickly, head gaskets a peice of piss and if you was closer i'd do it for you

[lolsteve]

Rimmerbros are too expensive, £225 for the gasket, bolts and oil rail without any of the other gaskets.
Gasketsforclassics seems to have a good rep with the rover community and it's £120 for everything.

How is the 1.8t engine? Where are you located? As you say it does seem simple enough so I'm willing to try just going to need some assistance with it

[lolsteve]

Just purchased some offset dowels to advance the timing on the cams. Figure if the engine is going to need taking apart I might as well do any head work to it when its in pieces rather than just taking apart again later

[306Dan]

I'm in Gainsborough, the 1.8t's not too bad got it running at 209 ATF just kinda wished I put it in something lighter