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[Wor Jimmy]

I think stock torque is 145 ft/lbs could be wrong though..

Sweet jesus..

[Mitch]

I think stock torque is 145 ft/lbs could be wrong though..

Sweet jesus..

Just had a quick look on parkers, they say 197nm, which is 145 ft/lbs

[Wor Jimmy]

I think stock torque is 145 ft/lbs could be wrong though..

Sweet jesus..

Just had a quick look on parkers, they say 197nm, which is 145 ft/lbs

i'm going to strip a 306 gearbox. measure some internals. compare it for shaft dia. compare teeth on gears for overall strength comapred to a 1.2l motorbike one. time will tell

[Midnightclub]

It may well not be the torque that destroys it as such, but how low down that torque is.. bike engines rev to like 13k, you'll be getting max torque at like 2.2krpm in a 1.9 XUD

[Dean]

the FJ is quite torquey down low for a bike. And like James said, they use the FJ1200 motors for drag bikes with 30+ PSI boost.

[Midnightclub]

Aren't you going to need some crazy long final drive to even make use of a bike gearbox?

[Wor Jimmy]

Aren't you going to need some crazy long final drive to even make use of a bike gearbox?

I'm not sure yet. thats why i wish to take a look see

If its to much of a ball bust i will just not bother lol

[Dean]

If it is a ball buster, then just man the f*ck up and learn to shift with a car shifter

[Wor Jimmy]

If it is a ball buster, then just man the f*ck up and learn to shift with a car shifter

Its not the case of "manning the f*ck up" .... Its the case of i am a lazy rider... or in this case. driver.

[Dean]

thats true, have you got a pump and injectors sorted?

[Wor Jimmy]

thats true, have you got a pump and injectors sorted?

heck no.

Doing the frame/wheels ect first.

PAINT! Kaboom!... Yeah.. downloading inventor again now (Autocad type thingy)

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I have no f*cking idea what i am doing...

[Wor Jimmy]

Parts coming SUNDAY!

[kentiiboii]

thats true, have you got a pump and injectors sorted?

heck no.

Doing the frame/wheels ect first.

PAINT! Kaboom!... Yeah.. downloading inventor again now (Autocad type thingy)



I have no f*cking idea what i am doing...

That's really good for paint

[Dean]

Can i ask what you're doing for a handbrake?.. or just gonna leave it in gear

[306Dan]

Why do you need a handbrake, even a a 306 doesn't have one

[Wor Jimmy]

Can i ask what you're doing for a handbrake?.. or just gonna leave it in gear

Needs it to pass the check test.

Back wheel will have a disk, one large caliper for the actual braking.
Smaller one off flea bay (cable operated) and have a lever somewhere in the cab

I Could be fancy as f*ck and use a hydraulic set up for it lol. (motorbike caliper + master)

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1. Hazards are a retro-fit must for all trikes.

2. Handbrake - A trike must have a seperate mechanical handbrake which must operate as follows:-

If the trike is under 450kg and therefore a Class 3 MOT, then the handbrake must operate on at least ONE wheel of the axle.

If the trike is over 450kg and therefore a Class 4 MOT, then the handbrake must operate on BOTH wheels of the axle.
(the assumption being that a mechanical emergency/parking/handbrake operates on the rear axle)

3. Headlights
For all trikes over 50cc and capable of more than 45mph

Trikes over 1300mm wide must have 2 headlamps at the front.
Unless they are motorcycle derived - in which case they only need 2 headlamps if over 1700mm wide.

The tester's interperatation of "motorcycle derived" is:-

that if a trike has a car engine/gearbox/rearaxle and car like controls such as hand gearcghange then it is car derived (no matter where the front steering originates) then the 1300mm rule applies.

[Rippthrough]

It may well not be the torque that destroys it as such, but how low down that torque is.. bike engines rev to like 13k, you'll be getting max torque at like 2.2krpm in a 1.9 XUD

It'll be the shock loadings, and the torque pulses from a diesel (lets face it, they ain't up there on the list of smooth powerplants)
Shock is what kills gearboxes and shafts more than anything, that's why the gears we use in the buggy are over an inch wide even though they're made from decent stuff.
That's also why the drag bikes tend to strip the gearkit out and fit 3 really damned big gears instead of the stock 6.

[Dean]

Can i ask what you're doing for a handbrake?.. or just gonna leave it in gear

Needs it to pass the check test.

Back wheel will have a disk, one large caliper for the actual braking.
Smaller one off flea bay (cable operated) and have a lever somewhere in the cab

I Could be fancy as f*ck and use a hydraulic set up for it lol. (motorbike caliper + master)

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1. Hazards are a retro-fit must for all trikes.

2. Handbrake - A trike must have a seperate mechanical handbrake which must operate as follows:-

If the trike is under 450kg and therefore a Class 3 MOT, then the handbrake must operate on at least ONE wheel of the axle.

If the trike is over 450kg and therefore a Class 4 MOT, then the handbrake must operate on BOTH wheels of the axle.
(the assumption being that a mechanical emergency/parking/handbrake operates on the rear axle)

3. Headlights
For all trikes over 50cc and capable of more than 45mph

Trikes over 1300mm wide must have 2 headlamps at the front.
Unless they are motorcycle derived - in which case they only need 2 headlamps if over 1700mm wide.

The tester's interperatation of "motorcycle derived" is:-

that if a trike has a car engine/gearbox/rearaxle and car like controls such as hand gearcghange then it is car derived (no matter where the front steering originates) then the 1300mm rule applies.

Rear calipers off the gti,s have cable operated handbrake, sure the 106's + 206's are the same. Tbh most are probs like that now.

Headlights aren't a problem really, can get some like off your old FJ and just mount some switches to some Perspex.

And if it has a car engine + gearbox with car controls does It still count as a trike? Or is there a set of guidelines for that.

[Wor Jimmy]

Can i ask what you're doing for a handbrake?.. or just gonna leave it in gear

Needs it to pass the check test.

Back wheel will have a disk, one large caliper for the actual braking.
Smaller one off flea bay (cable operated) and have a lever somewhere in the cab

I Could be fancy as f*ck and use a hydraulic set up for it lol. (motorbike caliper + master)

---

1. Hazards are a retro-fit must for all trikes.

2. Handbrake - A trike must have a seperate mechanical handbrake which must operate as follows:-

If the trike is under 450kg and therefore a Class 3 MOT, then the handbrake must operate on at least ONE wheel of the axle.

If the trike is over 450kg and therefore a Class 4 MOT, then the handbrake must operate on BOTH wheels of the axle.
(the assumption being that a mechanical emergency/parking/handbrake operates on the rear axle)

3. Headlights
For all trikes over 50cc and capable of more than 45mph

Trikes over 1300mm wide must have 2 headlamps at the front.
Unless they are motorcycle derived - in which case they only need 2 headlamps if over 1700mm wide.

The tester's interperatation of "motorcycle derived" is:-

that if a trike has a car engine/gearbox/rearaxle and car like controls such as hand gearcghange then it is car derived (no matter where the front steering originates) then the 1300mm rule applies.

Rear calipers off the gti,s have cable operated handbrake, sure the 106's + 206's are the same. Tbh most are probs like that now.

Headlights aren't a problem really, can get some like off your old FJ and just mount some switches to some Perspex.

And if it has a car engine + gearbox with car controls does It still count as a trike? Or is there a set of guidelines for that.

I never said they would be a problem

it wont need to be mega power on the brake since its under 450kg.

its a different class of trike. but i can still drive it (yet people with car licences cant) hahahaha

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It may well not be the torque that destroys it as such, but how low down that torque is.. bike engines rev to like 13k, you'll be getting max torque at like 2.2krpm in a 1.9 XUD

It'll be the shock loadings, and the torque pulses from a diesel (lets face it, they ain't up there on the list of smooth powerplants)
Shock is what kills gearboxes and shafts more than anything, that's why the gears we use in the buggy are over an inch wide even though they're made from decent stuff.
That's also why the drag bikes tend to strip the gearkit out and fit 3 really damned big gears instead of the stock 6.

Got any pics on the buggy/gearbox? ect?
Lets face it. the way i am thinking of doing probs wont work. but I'm still keeping a spare gear box (a normal one that will probs go on first) and just tinkering on with trying to make a seggy

[Rippthrough]

[Wor Jimmy]

Beastly....

1.25" bore/shaft ?

[Rippthrough]

It varies from ~32 to 40mm depending on the gear position. It undercuts down to 25mm at 5th gear so we can't use 5th at all

[Jenkosowls]

It varies from ~32 to 40mm depending on the gear position. It undercuts down to 25mm at 5th gear so we can't use 5th at all

5th's for cruising Ed doesn't do that!

[Wor Jimmy]

I'm still ripping apart some gear boxes. fun to be had.

Also need to get my hands on a tube notcher. ..I'v got a lend of a hydraulic pipe bender (capable of 2" ish.. )
Anyone selling/loaning?

[Dean]

Tube notcher, i have no idea what one of them are, and whos is the pipe bender?

Did you manage to get autocad sorted out?

[Wor Jimmy]

Tube notcher, i have no idea what one of them are, and whos is the pipe bender?

Did you manage to get autocad sorted out?

Puts a inverted radiut type cut on the end on a pipe at straight/ fancy angles
Mute it.. annoying voice lol . I could make one.. but would have to stick more time into it and i just cba.


as for Inventor...

Getting there got most of the frame done.. but even then its nothing like the final frame probs.. since i don't know engine size hight.width.. mount placements ect.. Might just do a rough model. stress test it then build by eye since i f*cking hate planning thing.. were is the fun in that.

Pipe bender is martins had one all along.. got the engine crain too. (might bolt a H beam to the garage roof joist ????) and attach a winch.. would save my bank hoisting the fj engine in my self lol

[Rippthrough]

Tube notcher, i have no idea what one of them are,

Man with an angle grinder.

[Wor Jimmy]

Tube notcher, i have no idea what one of them are,

Man with an angle grinder.

God no I dont have the patience .. I'd end up throwing it around the garage... as per.

[Dean]

Pretty sure JTF sell an automatic hoist for £74.

[Wor Jimmy]

Pretty sure JTF sell an automatic hoist for £74.

74 quid? fheck off. rather lift it with my nut sack.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wolf-1-Ton-1-T...41748d9bb5