1.5 derv fuel pumps

[procta]

right one for those who play with the 106s etc,
one of the lads on the metro owners club is doing a samass, but its a metro diesel.
the car has the lucas pump on, can he get a borsch pump from the 306 and put that on?
he is going to fit the rear beam to the metro from a 106 too,

[Andy!]

Don't really know much about it but is there a port for some kind of turbo compensation on the 1.9td pumps or are you thinking a NAD pump?

[procta]

Don't really know much about it but is there a port for some kind of turbo compensation on the 1.9td pumps or are you thinking a NAD pump?

the fella is going to Turbo it, so TD pump. not sure how related these are to the 1.9 engines.

[Tom]

I guess if the cambelt is the same width and theres some kind of bracket available why not? Theres not a great deal of info in the OP to go from really lol.

[Andy!]

I'm sure I have seen a 1.5 106 fitted with a turbo on youtube, or maybe it was a supercharger.

[Chris]

Same tu engine that is in the 106 iirc so a bosch off a 1.9 as salads has done should do the trick.

[Chris_90]

If engine is the same as 106 can be done, samass done it, I done it, sure piggy is doing it (fitting a Bosch that is) just tricky getting timing right


EDIT! They are the same tu engine as the 106/saxo/ax never new that!

*runs off to buy a metro 1.5*

[Ruan]

Yeah, doable, but is a bit of a shit as there's no timing holes, but it's not impossible.

Bits of the bracket need a little trimming also IIRC, but nothing major.

[procta]

should I tell him not to bother, due to the timing been a pig to do?
yeah the metro diesel is the same engine from its French cousins, laugh is the 3 cars use the gearbox too!

[Chris_90]

should I tell him not to bother, due to the timing been a pig to do?
yeah the metro diesel is the same engine from its French cousins, laugh is the 3 cars use the gearbox too!

No still worth doing just gotta no we're to time the pump up to sure if you ask nicely I can help or samass will be along with help

[procta]

should I tell him not to bother, due to the timing been a pig to do?
yeah the metro diesel is the same engine from its French cousins, laugh is the 3 cars use the gearbox too!

No still worth doing just gotta no we're to time the pump up to sure if you ask nicely I can help or samass will be along with help

I will see what he says about swopping the pump over, and I will ask you nicely for the timing details, after all he is another hard core 1.5 na derv owner, but in a different shell.

[Chris_90]

should I tell him not to bother, due to the timing been a pig to do?
yeah the metro diesel is the same engine from its French cousins, laugh is the 3 cars use the gearbox too!

No still worth doing just gotta no we're to time the pump up to sure if you ask nicely I can help or samass will be along with help

I will see what he says about swopping the pump over, and I will ask you nicely for the timing details, after all he is another hard core 1.5 na derv owner, but in a different shell.

I'm happy to answer any questions if the guy wants to no any info, but be better if he just xud'ed the metro :Lol: that would be pretty epic

[procta]

I have spoke to him about that, as I know someone on .net did it to a 106.
I will keep you posted on how he gets on, and post over questions he may have. he mentioned the crank pulley is different.
did you keep the 1.5 or did that get swopped over for the 1.9?

[Chris_90]

I have spoke to him about that, as I know someone on .net did it to a 106.
I will keep you posted on how he gets on, and post over questions he may have. he mentioned the crank pulley is different.
did you keep the 1.5 or did that get swopped over for the 1.9?

Don't really understand what you mean there? Do you mean have I got 1.5 engine in my 106 or 1.9 I've got 1.5 engine. If you mean did I change the crank pulley no I didn't.

The pump fits on the 106 bracket if you cut the 4th bolt hole off. Have to cut the throttle arm as short as possible so it clears raditor, use 106 Bosch fuel injector lines as there bolt on (or can use lucus ones with lots of bending). Use Bosch pulley. Timing wise bascily get it set to same as 306 timing and you won't be far out (12-5) that's it really did take me a while to get timing sorted but Jenks came to the rescue and told me I was doing it all wrong you have to use the pump as your 12o'clock not the engine block if that makes sense.

[procta]

I have spoke to him about that, as I know someone on .net did it to a 106.
I will keep you posted on how he gets on, and post over questions he may have. he mentioned the crank pulley is different.
did you keep the 1.5 or did that get swopped over for the 1.9?

Don't really understand what you mean there? Do you mean have I got 1.5 engine in my 106 or 1.9 I've got 1.5 engine. If you mean did I change the crank pulley no I didn't.

The pump fits on the 106 bracket if you cut the 4th bolt hole off. Have to cut the throttle arm as short as possible so it clears raditor, use 106 Bosch fuel injector lines as there bolt on (or can use lucus ones with lots of bending). Use Bosch pulley. Timing wise bascily get it set to same as 306 timing and you won't be far out (12-5) that's it really did take me a while to get timing sorted but Jenks came to the rescue and told me I was doing it all wrong you have to use the pump as your 12o'clock not the engine block if that makes sense.

sorry for throwing you off there chris, I think he was meaning the crank pulley needed swopping over, off the 1.9 to the 1.5. I was side tracked when posting up.
so you have answered that for me, so I will pass that on.
I will pm him this info, as that's gold for him.

[Chris_90]

No worrys any more questions feel free to ask, were does this guy live? If he's local don't mind even lending a hand/letting him look at mine so he can see what needs to be done.

[procta]

the lad lives in Newbury, Berks, he' just bought a kkk from a renault 1.5dci,

[Chris_90]

the lad lives in Newbury, Berks, he' just bought a kkk from a renault 1.5dci,

Ahhh to far for me interested to keep my eye on this project tho, like to project thread?

[procta]

the lad lives in Newbury, Berks, he' just bought a kkk from a renault 1.5dci,

Ahhh to far for me interested to keep my eye on this project tho, like to project thread?

sadly the metro owners forum is restricted, so you would have to sign up.

[silverzx]

Samas is selling a specific Bosch for these for £75. Get on it.

[Chris_90]

Samas is selling a specific Bosch for these for £75. Get on it.

When you say specific, you mean with the 4th bolt hole grinded off and throttle arm shorten but will save getting grinder out

[silverzx]

Yes thats exactly what I mean.

[procta]

I will let him know, he's going to make a flange up for his turbo,.

[Chris_90]

I will let him know, he's going to make a flange up for his turbo,.

Is he putting turbo down the back? It's really tight back there with gear likages starter motor etc

[procta]

I will let him know, he's going to make a flange up for his turbo,.

Is he putting turbo down the back? It's really tight back there with gear likages starter motor etc

not sure yet, he hasn't posted any photos up yet. I will keep you posted.