Cold start headache

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Cold start headache
#1
Hi all.

I'm stuck as my car, after the Bosch conversion is really rough on a cold start. I've changed the lines and changed the injectors as I thought this may be the issue as i think it's air getting in the system over night. When it's warm it's fine. 100%. I don't run veg and the glow plugs are new(ish) I've got a hybrid turbo to go on but don't want to till this fuelling is sorted out. Any ideas chaps?

PC.
93 106 xsi
98 306 1.9d 
98 306 1.9td lx 
01 306 2.0hdi 
97 306 1.9td estate 
96 306 dturbo 
96 306 dturbo 
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#2
so you think you getting air in?

could be leak off pipes or the connections to fuel filter housing.
if you prime it uo does it helo the starting?
Wishes for more power...
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#3
Could be the timing is slightly out on the pump or perhaps your glow plugs aren't all working?
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#4
and its worth doing a resistance check on the plugs and a voltage check to rule them out
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#5
Timing won't be out to cause this while cold besides a conversion that I'v done will never leave me unless the timing is spot on.

Did you manage to sort the advance retard situation?
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#6
The grenade doesn't get firm if I prime it.
93 106 xsi
98 306 1.9d 
98 306 1.9td lx 
01 306 2.0hdi 
97 306 1.9td estate 
96 306 dturbo 
96 306 dturbo 
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(24-10-2013, 12:01 PM)306pc Wrote: The grenade doesn't get firm if I prime it.


If it doesn't get Firm your gonna be leaking Fuel some were when you prime it, try to find that leak and sort it Smile



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(24-10-2013, 12:13 PM)Chris_90 Wrote:
(24-10-2013, 12:01 PM)306pc Wrote: The grenade doesn't get firm if I prime it.


If it doesn't get Firm your gonna be leaking Fuel some were when you prime it, try to find that leak and sort it Smile
and where the fuel is getting out air maybe getting in....
Cheers.
93 106 xsi
98 306 1.9d 
98 306 1.9td lx 
01 306 2.0hdi 
97 306 1.9td estate 
96 306 dturbo 
96 306 dturbo 
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#9
Did you ever use the grenade before? When we did the conversion may have upset the one way valve to which fuel can be draining back down the line in between long start up times
Perv 106 1.4 xs First Pug Love - Scrapped
Perv 306 1.6 5 Door Hore - Sold
110bhp 207 Hdi Sport - Used as a Brake
173bhp T25 Ph1 Diablo Dturbo - Scrapped
Thirsty Bitch Volvo 850 Estate - Sold
51bhp Berlingo Nad DT Van - Sold
Slow as f*ck Dispatch Work Horse

www.prestige-auto-care.co.uk
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(24-10-2013, 03:51 PM)Jenkosowls Wrote: Did you ever use the grenade before? When we did the conversion may have upset the one way valve to which fuel can be draining back down the line in between long start up times

I didn't prime it since I originally tuned the Lucas pump. Ill have a look at that too. You set for the turbo change soon jenks?
93 106 xsi
98 306 1.9d 
98 306 1.9td lx 
01 306 2.0hdi 
97 306 1.9td estate 
96 306 dturbo 
96 306 dturbo 
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Yeah turbo change shouldn't be an issue matey
Perv 106 1.4 xs First Pug Love - Scrapped
Perv 306 1.6 5 Door Hore - Sold
110bhp 207 Hdi Sport - Used as a Brake
173bhp T25 Ph1 Diablo Dturbo - Scrapped
Thirsty Bitch Volvo 850 Estate - Sold
51bhp Berlingo Nad DT Van - Sold
Slow as f*ck Dispatch Work Horse

www.prestige-auto-care.co.uk
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Next Wednesday?
93 106 xsi
98 306 1.9d 
98 306 1.9td lx 
01 306 2.0hdi 
97 306 1.9td estate 
96 306 dturbo 
96 306 dturbo 
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(24-10-2013, 06:49 PM)306pc Wrote: Next Wednesday?

Mini meet? Lol if I'm not doing owt might pop up



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Jenks did your conversion didn't he Chris?
93 106 xsi
98 306 1.9d 
98 306 1.9td lx 
01 306 2.0hdi 
97 306 1.9td estate 
96 306 dturbo 
96 306 dturbo 
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(24-10-2013, 07:10 PM)306pc Wrote: Jenks did your conversion didn't he Chris?

He did, any thing I f**k up Jenks fixes lol messed up trying to tune my old pump he fixed it, couldn't time my 306 pump on my 106 he fixed that lol but I'm learning now lol can change a turbo tho don't mind lending a hand/ just talking, as long as I'm not doing anything on that Wednesday



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#16
Check/seal the common places:

Fuel filter housing lid - remove lid, clean with carb spray and apply silicone sealent to join
Fuel filter housing base - can get replacement O-rings for em
Fuel filter housing stat - the little white X in the bottom corner, the seals around the stat can go and leak air in - clean it up and goo the shit out of it.

Fuel priming grenade - rubber can perish and split and the OWV can go - replace it.

If you have a piece of clear fuel pipe between the filter housing and the pump you can see air bubbles entering the system if the problem is before the pump.
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#17
If you're leaking it will be post-grenade and will be enough to visually see if you're not priming at all..
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(25-10-2013, 09:56 AM)r3k1355 Wrote: Check/seal the common places:

Fuel filter housing lid - remove lid, clean with carb spray and apply silicone sealent to join
Fuel filter housing base - can get replacement O-rings for em
Fuel filter housing stat - the little white X in the bottom corner, the seals around the stat can go and leak air in - clean it up and goo the shit out of it.

Fuel priming grenade - rubber can perish and split and the OWV can go - replace it.

If you have a piece of clear fuel pipe between the filter housing and the pump you can see air bubbles entering the system if the problem is before the pump.
cheers pal, great information.
93 106 xsi
98 306 1.9d 
98 306 1.9td lx 
01 306 2.0hdi 
97 306 1.9td estate 
96 306 dturbo 
96 306 dturbo 
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