+- 306oc - Peugeot 306 Owners Club & Forum (https://www.306oc.co.uk/forum)
+-- Forum: 306 Repairs & Mods (https://www.306oc.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=22)
+--- Forum: Suspension, Transmission, Handling & Braking (https://www.306oc.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=19)
+--- Thread: Group N engine mounts? (/showthread.php?tid=803)
Pages:
1
2
Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 08-01-2012
I need to change some of the engine mounts on my cabby (2.0 16v) and so was gonna sort all 3 at once.
Was just wondering how bad the vibrations are at idle on them with a nice smooth petrol engine. I had them on my HDi and you could feel the whole car tingling at idle even though it had a balanced bottom end.
I want to keep the cabby relatively softly set up as it is a daily drive but i loved the lack of engine movement when I had them in the diesel so the question is will i get upset with them or not.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 08-01-2012
Also just looked on service box and all 3 mounts are £114.18 inc VAT from Pug so with my discount thatll be £102.76
From Baker BM the Group N kit is £115.20 inc VAT Delivered.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Niall - 08-01-2012
I know I would. Mine is silky smooth!
If your doing the bottom mount, have you got a press? If so, fancy doing mine? Mines f*cked and needs replacing
Re: Group N engine mounts? - lh_4827 - 08-01-2012
with the HDi, was it too rough for daily use? my engine rocks severely, and Baker BM are within pissing distance of me..
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 08-01-2012
NiallHarper Wrote:I know I would. Mine is silky smooth!
If your doing the bottom mount, have you got a press? If so, fancy doing mine? Mines f*cked and needs replacing
I dont have a press but i have a plan.
Im buying a bottom engine mount cradle off poodles cabby so i can go and get someone to press in the mount while my car still moves under its own power then ill be able to swap the whole lot without the faff.
Ill sell you the cradle afterwards if you want.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Niall - 08-01-2012
I want to avoid taking the drive shaft out. Pain in the arse job. I reckon if I replaced it with a 2 part powerflex mount, I could press it in under the car.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Chris - 08-01-2012
Top 2 group N with a standard lower rotated 90*
Going to be doing the hdi with that setup when I get round to doing them.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 08-01-2012
lh_4827 Wrote:with the HDi, was it too rough for daily use? my engine rocks severely, and Baker BM are within pissing distance of me..
It was too rough for sitting in traffic.
They feel fantastic when your on the move though, the whole car feels more predictable on the limit cos the engine isnt throwing its weight around and knocking you off course.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 08-01-2012
NiallHarper Wrote:I want to avoid taking the drive shaft out. Pain in the arse job. I reckon if I replaced it with a 2 part powerflex mount, I could press it in under the car.
Burn the old one out then use a couple of G clamps and some blocks of wood then.
Personally I think it would be less effort to remove the shaft.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Niall - 08-01-2012
Dum-Dum Wrote:NiallHarper Wrote:I want to avoid taking the drive shaft out. Pain in the arse job. I reckon if I replaced it with a 2 part powerflex mount, I could press it in under the car.
Burn the old one out then use a couple of G clamps and some blocks of wood then.
Personally I think it would be less effort to remove the shaft.
Hmm might get a garage to do it. Me and my gearbox don't get on well at all lol.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Foxy-jim - 09-01-2012
I'm going for the powerflex bottom engine mount and the rest are going to be Baker BM.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - darrenjlobb - 09-01-2012
Powerflex ones are easy as they just push in by hand, and to remove the old one just get a chisel, and a hammer, and cut . smash the side right out of it, soon gets it out!
As for harder mounts in your petrol, should be fine Id have thought....
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Ruan - 09-01-2012
I can cope with them in my Diesel...
Birds LOVE the ride!
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Foxy-jim - 09-01-2012
Just ordered all my mounts so should be here by the end of the week!
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Atterz - 09-01-2012
Group N mounts on a 6 still vibrate at idle, so take that in to account. I would personally go GENUINE Pug lower mount with the 2 uppers solid/group N.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 09-01-2012
Atterz Wrote:Group N mounts on a 6 still vibrate at idle, so take that in to account. I would personally go GENUINE Pug lower mount with the 2 uppers solid/group N.
Why?
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Atterz - 09-01-2012
Because its the Lower Group N mount that causes the vibration. Therefore but using the upper mounts to limit the movement (combined with a chock on the top mount to further reduce it) with a Genuine Pug lower mount (Genuine because pattern part mounts are utter utter shite!) then you should get the effect you desire.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 09-01-2012
Atterz Wrote:Because its the Lower Group N mount that causes the vibration. Therefore but using the upper mounts to limit the movement (combined with a chock on the top mount to further reduce it) with a Genuine Pug lower mount (Genuine because pattern part mounts are utter utter shite!) then you should get the effect you desire.
Makes sense
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Foxy-jim - 10-01-2012
I will also let you know what they are like on my 1.4!
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 10-01-2012
Just bought a set so its too late now LOL
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Foxy-jim - 10-01-2012
Did you buy the full set or get all but the lower and a powerflex lower mount?
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 11-01-2012
Full Set mate.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Foxy-jim - 11-01-2012
Nice! Mine have arrived today!
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 12-01-2012
Cool, hoping to have mine tomorrow
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 21-01-2012
Fitted my top mount and gear box mount today and made up some chocks for the top mount too so it cant swing about even if it wants to and Ive gotta say Id forgotten how much they make the dash vibrate
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Foxy-jim - 21-01-2012
Haha is it bad? Still haven't done mine yet.
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 21-01-2012
Its not BAD but its annoying and its not just on idle, if i hold it at 2k it still rattles, its alright after that
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 21-01-2012
Done about 10 miles on them now and theyer definitely softening up, theyer fine if a little tingly on hot idle, cold idle aint great, theres some horrible resonant frequencies between 1500 and 2500 but after that its now fine however my engine is still throwing itself forwards (although nowhere near as bad) when i let off the throttle.
So now I definitely need a new bottom mount I have the group n one in my garage but do i take Atterz advice and fit a gen pug one or do i fit the grp n cos i really CBA with taking the mount off twice
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Foxy-jim - 21-01-2012
Just put the group N one on! Im putting the powerflex one on mine!
Re: Group N engine mounts? - Dum-Dum - 21-01-2012
Im getting too old for cars that shake on idle and arent happy with anything less than a flat out ragg.