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Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Curt - 10-09-2012
I've never seen this done, only talked about.
It must be possible, I would have thought, but how much of a ball-ache would it be?
Mine is electric speedo so that should be okay, and I know the plugs are different.
Is it purely a case of looking through diagrams and matching wires?
As I'm capable with most but electrics are my nightmare.
Cheers.
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Matt - 10-09-2012
Let's do this. I'll come down and give a hand. Goo at matching wires lol.
From what I know the ph1 have several different plugs where as the phase 2/3 has only 2. I guess there would be the same amount of wires to an from them though.
Wouldn't it be easier to switch over the needles and the backing? There the same size iirc dials all the same size etc...
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Niall - 10-09-2012
Give me some time and ill work out a diagram for you and if im feeling really nice (unlikely) then i might even make you a adaptor loom!
It can be done. Its a nice upgrade in the 106s
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Curt - 10-09-2012
(10-09-2012, 03:25 PM)Matt Wrote: Let's do this. I'll come down and give a hand. Goo at matching wires lol.
From what I know the ph1 have several different plugs where as the phase 2/3 has only 2. I guess there would be the same amount of wires to an from them though.
Wouldn't it be easier to switch over the needles and the backing? There the same size iirc dials all the same size etc...
Haha, yes! I know the phase 1's have like 5 plugs yeah... But you'd hope there'd be the same/similar amount of wires. I may just do that though yeah, John suggested that a couple of weeks ago.
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(10-09-2012, 03:32 PM)Niall Wrote: Give me some time and ill work out a diagram for you and if im feeling really nice (unlikely) then i might even make you a adaptor loom!
It can be done. Its a nice upgrade in the 106s
If you could do that, that'd be awesome. Also if you could, then I'll give you some moolah/beer/bacon.
I thought it'd be a nice little update, as I'm looking to update the interior whilst retaining the phase 1 exterior.
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Niall - 10-09-2012
ill get cracking with it tonight.
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Curt - 10-09-2012
Wicked, cheers
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Frosty - 10-09-2012
my d turbo is a phase 1 with a phase 2 cluster. its got a complete phase 2 dash though
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Joe - 11-09-2012
niall would you be interested in making me a mini loom aswell?
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Birk - 11-09-2012
Just change the entire dash with the dash loom and clocks, easy.
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Joe - 11-09-2012
easy? in comparison to a plug and play loom? :/
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Niall - 11-09-2012
I'll see how easy they are to make up and might make a few
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Joe - 11-09-2012
ok mate cheers maybe would it help if we were to send you plugs from a p2?
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Niall - 11-09-2012
Nah I'm trying to source the plugs that go into the back of the dials so it will literally be a plug and play mod
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - D@wson - 11-09-2012
What about mileage? Are phase 2 a digital display?
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Joe - 11-09-2012
yeah why not cut the loom off a p2 scrapper then make a plug to fit the p1 loom?
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Birk - 11-09-2012
Depends if you have access to a dash, i did at the time i did my swop, so rather chop wires, i just did the entire dash, which in turn gave me an updated facia
Ive got an old ph2 dash i dont mind taking the plus off, its scrap anyway, and have plenty of ph2 and ph3 clocks.
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Niall - 11-09-2012
(11-09-2012, 12:21 PM)Joe Wrote: yeah why not cut the loom off a p2 scrapper then make a plug to fit the p1 loom?
Would rather just have a loom that plugs into the original plugs. Think ive sourced the plugs for quite cheap
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Joe - 11-09-2012
im confused? obviously you need the plug for the back of the p2 clocks?
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Niall - 11-09-2012
all im going to do is make a loom that has 2 male plugs to plug into the new dials and on the other end of the loom,, female plugs so that the original dash loom can plug stright into them. about 30 seconds work to fit!
mileage we wont be able to change so i suggest buying clocks with as closer mileage to yours as possible.
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Curt - 11-09-2012
I have got access to a phase 3 GTi dash and anything there I need (bar the clocks and fascias) but I can't be doing with the hassle. Especially on my daily runner when it's not a 5 minute job
Re: RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - vlj - 11-09-2012
(11-09-2012, 03:46 PM)Curt Wrote: I have got access to a phase 3 GTi dash and anything there I need (bar the clocks and fascias) but I can't be doing with the hassle. Especially on my daily runner when it's not a 5 minute job
I can give you a hand, I already started taking Eds dash out so it's most of the way there
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Danny2009 - 27-09-2012
Did you get round to sorting the dash looms pal?
Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Parksy87 - 11-10-2012
Any joy, mind me askin what plugs you've found that would fit into the ph1 clock loom?
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Niall - 11-10-2012
Still doing it. Been really busy with work recently so havent had the time.
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Birk - 13-10-2012
Could have swapped the whole dash over by now lol
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - darrenjlobb - 13-10-2012
Why the heck would you want to do this? Ph2-Ph1 id understand, but this seems pointless lol...the ph1 clocks are far better clocks imo...proper electromagnet dials that respond instantly, not half a second later like the servo ph2/3 dash's do...cant needle is always playing catch up in a ph2 DT!
Either way, yes its possible just case of getting pin out of each and adapting it...
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Niall - 13-10-2012
(13-10-2012, 12:00 PM)Birk Wrote: Could have swapped the whole dash over by now lol
Could but it wouldnt work. It would of been done by now but one of the ph1 diagrams i was given was wrong....in fact im doubtful it was even a 306 but there ya go.
Darrens right there is a slight delay on them but they do look nicer.
RE: Phase 2 instrument cluster into phase 1? - Curt - 13-10-2012
I want to do it because I prefer them - it's all about personal preference at the end of the day!