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Fitting challengers - Frosty - 04-07-2012
Basically I'm thinking of getting some challengers for my 306. I just want to know what I need to fit them as in spacers, wheel bolts, etc
RE: Fitting challengers - Matt - 04-07-2012
Iirc they need 10mm spacers. And then obviously slightly longer bolts
Fitting challengers - Frosty - 04-07-2012
Would I need spacers for front and back?
RE: Fitting challengers - Eeyore - 04-07-2012
(04-07-2012, 10:14 PM)nufc4frosty Wrote: Would I need spacers for front and back?
i would have thought so! You may not need them on one end but itll look stupid if one is wider than the other!
Fitting challengers - kentiiboii - 05-07-2012
Minimum 10mm on the back iirc. And flat seated tapered bolts. Which you can't get extended so I've done as most on here have which Is buy a stud conversion.
Like rowell said don't look right and was also told don't handle with with different spacers so I've gone 15mm all round. All in all cost me just over £130 to fit.
RE: Fitting challengers - mark_airey - 05-07-2012
(04-07-2012, 10:20 PM)SRowell Wrote: i would have thought so! You may not need them on one end but itll look stupid if one is wider than the other!
They are different widths anyway, the front is wider than the back by nearly 30mm IIRC
plus the rear wheels sit much further into the arches than the front as standard which IMO looks shit
Fitting challengers - kentiiboii - 05-07-2012
Yeah the back do fit in the arches a bit more I noticed that.
RE: Fitting challengers - Dan! - 05-07-2012
Different size spacers will not affect handling lol.
RE: Fitting challengers - mark_airey - 05-07-2012
(05-07-2012, 08:42 AM)Dan! Wrote: Different size spacers will not affect handling lol.
I know right....mine seems to handle ok anyway
Fitting challengers - kentiiboii - 05-07-2012
Sorry someone advised me it makes a little difference.
RE: Fitting challengers - bongo - 05-07-2012
I had some on my old car with no arch liners and some 3mm shims and standard bolts worked for them. Did look a bit gash though being set in at the back so I went for some 10mm ones in the end and you can get extended bolts online if you look. In fact, I'm pretty sure mine came from a company in Notts and will try and find out but it was a few years back now.
Fronts can go straight on though
EDIT - RoadRunner Motorsport is where I got mine from though can't remember the size needed
but they should be able to help you out.
RE: Fitting challengers - darrenjlobb - 05-07-2012
The spacers will effect handling to some extent, its adusting the track width of the car, so will always have an effect..
But more to the point, on stock struts, the fronts WILL fit with nothing, and back NEED 5mm...then they will fit, BUT will look totally gash with anything less than 15mm up front and back imo...cant stand wheels sat half a mile in the archs!
RE: Fitting challengers - Frosty - 05-07-2012
thanks for the help guys.
what have you got on your car darren as they look good on yours?
Fitting challengers - Frosty - 06-07-2012
Also bin hearing about stud conversion kits. You guys got any reports on them?
Fitting challengers - kentiiboii - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 06:34 PM)nufc4frosty Wrote: Also bin hearing about stud conversion kits. You guys got any reports on them?
I was very nervous of them at first but I was told its the only propper way of fitting these. So I went and bought them. Had them on about 2 months now and really like them. Just make sure you use lock tite
Fitting challengers - Frosty - 07-07-2012
What length would I need to have with 15mm spacer?
Where did you get yours from?
Fitting challengers - kentiiboii - 07-07-2012
I got mine from speedshack gave them a call. I needed 70mm studs but they didn't have them so I got 80mm and cut some off. The dimensions iirc were 1.25 at the bottom and 1.5 at the top for the stud which were flat seated tapered of a Toyota.
I'm sure dum dum will be along soon to correct me as it was him that showed me his setup.
RE: Fitting challengers - darrenjlobb - 07-07-2012
I used to run mine with 5mm spacers and stud conversion, but looked pants imo, so ended up spacing it 20mm front and back, the spacers bolt to the hub with new bolts, and the wheels bolt to the spacer with OEM bolts, much easier /safer, and looks much more win spaced out me thinks!
Fitting challengers - Frosty - 07-07-2012
(07-07-2012, 11:00 AM)darrenjlobb Wrote: I used to run mine with 5mm spacers and stud conversion, but looked pants imo, so ended up spacing it 20mm front and back, the spacers bolt to the hub with new bolts, and the wheels bolt to the spacer with OEM bolts, much easier /safer, and looks much more win spaced out me thinks!
So from what I understand you got spacers that bolt to the hub and then the wheels bolt to the spacers with standard bolts? If that's correct are they different to usual spacer people use?
RE: Fitting challengers - kingy - 07-07-2012
the spacers that bolt to the hub then bolt the wheel to the spacer are miles better not to mention safer. thats why they cost more. imo if your going to do it then do it properly.
Fitting challengers - Frosty - 07-07-2012
(07-07-2012, 02:41 PM)kingy Wrote: the spacers that bolt to the hub then bolt the wheel to the spacer are miles better not to mention safer. thats why they cost more. imo if your going to do it then do it properly.
Do you have a link to a set of these by any chance?
RE: Fitting challengers - kingy - 07-07-2012
ive had a quick look and carnt see any 15mm but if you contact these im sure they will do em.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-106-205-306-20MM-HUBCENTRIC-WHEEL-SPACERS-4x108-/250965841646?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyre_Trims_Trims_ET&hash=item3a6ebad6ee
RE: Fitting challengers - darrenjlobb - 07-07-2012
They look exactly what I have in 20mm
RE: Fitting challengers - kingy - 07-07-2012
thb i thought they where more than this. last time i looked they were like £90. i need 2 sets of these so think im gonna get some.
Fitting challengers - kentiiboii - 07-07-2012
Yeah bolt to hub job are possible safer but I went for cheaper option
they seem ok so far though.
RE: Fitting challengers - kingy - 07-07-2012
you will proberly be fine kent but imo its worth spending the extra. and at these prices you would be a fool not to.
Fitting challengers - Frosty - 07-07-2012
(07-07-2012, 05:53 PM)kingy Wrote: ive had a quick look and carnt see any 15mm but if you contact these im sure they will do em.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-106-205-306-20MM-HUBCENTRIC-WHEEL-SPACERS-4x108-/250965841646?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyre_Trims_Trims_ET&hash=item3a6ebad6ee
They look ideal. It's better to spend a bit more to know that there going to be alright. I guess that the bolts that come with them bolts the spacers to the hubs and then I use my standard bolts to bolt the wheels on?
RE: Fitting challengers - kingy - 07-07-2012
yep, thats it. make sure you check them a week after you have fitted them. heard so many storys about wheels coming off. aint no bother just to go round and make sure they are all nuts are still tight after a week is it.
another thing, make sure the centre bore is the same as the spacers or you will need spigot rings. iirc its 65.1.
Fitting challengers - Frosty - 07-07-2012
Yeah ok thanks for your help on this. There seem like the best option to me. Rather have these than a stud conversion. Recon it will work out cheaper as well
RE: Fitting challengers - kingy - 07-07-2012
go for it. i think challengers look the mutts nuts on a 306.