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205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 18-01-2014
Hi everyone, a few of you will have seen this before as it has taken me ages to get to this stage.
Some of this will be copied from other forums but if anyone would like pics or info please let me know. Target power is 205hp which will be a reet laugh in a car that weighs about 900kg.
My 205 is a black GRDT with Gti trim, Gti suspension (base hubs) and a lovely beige interior with poverty spec dash. I like its complete lack of electrical gubbins. The original engine was an xud7t which is a non intercooled 1.8td engine. With only 70odd hp you would expect it to be a complete slug but it was suprisingly quick (in diesel terms).
I ran the engine on WVO for 50,000 miles as it had the well known Bosch pump on it. By the time I rolled it into the bat cave the engine had 180k on it and was still going strong so a real thumbs up for the Xud7t.
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So its replacement engine is the DW10td common rail engine known as the 2.0l HDI. It is used in many different models/makes but the one I am using is out of a Citroen Xsara. I bought the engine off Ebay for the bargain price of £56, it came in 3 boxes as the previous owner had let his apprentice 'tinker' with it.
I set about getting things nice and clean-
Sump removed exposing the chain driven oil pump-
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Oil pump removed to gain access to the crank/pistons-
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You can see from the following pics that the pistons have a very special shape as the tip of the injector sits in the middle of the bowl. Fuel is injected via 5 holes in the tip of the injector using immense pressure (1350Bar)
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RE: 205 HDi :) - pugtk - 18-01-2014
have I seen this on the 205 gti forum?
RE: 205 HDi :) - ginge191 - 18-01-2014
Well this is a first..??
RE: 205 HDi :) - Craigus - 18-01-2014
Should be interesting!
RE: 205 HDi :) - darrenjlobb - 18-01-2014
Have seen elsewhere, but certainly alot of win.
Just my kind of project
205 HDi :) - Jtrigga - 18-01-2014
Looks very interesting always thought about this before considering it goes straight in. Will be watching.
RE: 205 HDi :) - Chris_90 - 18-01-2014
Looks very nice, seen a 205 5 door the other day with gti body Kit thought they had made it fit, but now I've seen this guessing they come out the factory like that? Must be extremely rare!
Be nice to see how you get on with the conversion, all tho I bet the wiring side of it is gonna give you a headache
RE: 205 HDi :) - Tom - 18-01-2014
Well the guy i know who planned to do this is going to be annoyed now! Good luck anyway though bud, will definately be an interesting read.
RE: 205 HDi :) - ozonehostile - 19-01-2014
Keeping it fully ecu controlled with the engine conversion?
RE: 205 HDi :) - mikey b - 19-01-2014
This is going to be win when it's done keep up the good work
RE: 205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 19-01-2014
Thanks chaps, hope you enjoy reading it.
Pugtk- Yup its on Gtidrivers and TDOCUK.
Ginge191- Not the first but i'm only aware of a few, probably the most well known version is this - http://youtu.be/_SAKnKB4woI he also fitted a twin turbo 2.2hdi in one.
Chris_90- I dont think its a factory fitted option but it is a good replica, maybe bits off different cars like the 309 maybe? I think only the STDT(3 door) came with the GTi gubbins from the factory.
Ozonehostile- Yep fully Ecu controlled, tuning from the driving seat
RE: 205 HDi :) - aggyj17 - 19-01-2014
Have you got the Rev counter working? How was the wireing was it difficult to do?
RE: 205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 19-01-2014
I have a set of clocks from the STDT with the rev gauge as my poverty spec dash had a clock instead of tacho. Not got round to fitting it yet but will do in the future.
RE: 205 HDi :) - aggyj17 - 19-01-2014
Ahh I see. I have thought about putting a hdi in my 205 but the wireing would completely baffle me lol. I have just gone the xud9 route.
RE: 205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 19-01-2014
So with the engine already in bits I started to strip it down for cleaning. One of the pistons had melted around the top edge so sourced a replacement. You can see the pistons and rods below -
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The piston has three rings round it, each has a different job to do.
Bottom - Oil scraper ring
Middle - Thin sealing ring
Top - Thickest sealing ring
They were all removed and cleaned of any carbon build up along with there cut outs in the piston.
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I then found that although BBQ cleaner is a very good carbon cleaner and makes life alot easier, it also dissolves the ceramic coating on the skirt of the piston LOL replacement piston number 2 sourced
With the pistons all clean and ready I made a tool to clean the cylinder bores, it was to take off any crap and not metal, worked ok though-
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I then gave the Inside/outside of the block a good cleaning, lick of paint and refitted the pistons and crank etc......
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RE: 205 HDi :) - Tom - 19-01-2014
Are you going to get the deck skimmed? If i was chasing 200bhp its something i would do. Better be safe than sorry kinda thing. Dont do a Piggy throw it all together looking great then had to take it all apart because hes smarter than everyone else...
RE: 205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 19-01-2014
No I didnt get it skimmed, checked with a straight edge along with the head. Due to a very limited budget ive had to make certain decisions which might effect future tuning. If owt happens I will have to sort it then. I have measured tolerances etc... so for now i'm happy the engine will hold together.
RE: 205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 24-01-2014
With the bottom end pretty much sorted -
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It was time to do a little bit of work on the head/manifolds. I bought new gaskets and marked out how much material could be removed to make a smooth connection between the head/manifolds.
Cylinder head intake-
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Inlet manifold-
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Cylinder head exhaust had the same gasket matching-
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You can see that the exhaust manifold is quite restrictive and full of crap so I gave that a tickle too-
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Next up was to find a way to connect the boost pipes to the inlet, normally the 110hp pipe is used but on a 205 it would stick up too far and stop the bonnet from closing. Options are cut a hole in the bonnet... or this -
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No EGR gubbins to worry about on this
RE: 205 HDi :) - Tom - 24-01-2014
Looking good pal!
RE: 205 HDi :) - padge - 24-01-2014
Brilliant project mate, will be watching this.
RE: 205 HDi :) - Piggy - 24-01-2014
looking great, i love how clean you got the manifolds inside...what did you use??
fyi, I used proper gauges to check the head and it still needing skimmed after it blew up within 10seconds of running the first time!
RE: 205 HDi :) - THE_Liam - 24-01-2014
This looks amazing! So much want for a 205 at the moment...
RE: 205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 24-01-2014
Cheers everyone
Piggy - Once the manifold work was done I shot blasted it inside and out, made sure there was no grit left in there and gave it a coat of Wd40. The engine has already ran and I've driven the car briefly ( on private land) so fingers crossed it will live long enough to see some serious abuse
205 HDi :) - Mitch - 30-01-2014
Very interesting, look forward to see how it comes along
RE: 205 HDi :) - Jamieh2013 - 30-01-2014
This looks very intresting.. Will keep an eye out for updates on this
RE: 205 HDi :) - Pugmarshall - 30-01-2014
This is absolute win! Massive fan!
RE: 205 HDi :) - ozonehostile - 30-01-2014
Wow you've done loads since I last checked up on this. Looking forward to some videos :-)
RE: 205 HDi :) - zx_volcane - 30-01-2014
Great project!
200+ bhp in a 205 is just insane, hope you've been looking at roll cages
Will be keeping an eye on this...
RE: 205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 30-01-2014
Don't be fooled it takes me ages to do anything lol. Most of this was done some time ago so even my updates are slow
It will be a complete weapon once finished so no doubt it will need a cage. I've got a rough plan with various stages I will complete before going further. At the min I'm just getting it roadworthy and reliable.
RE: 205 HDi :) - Uberderv - 02-02-2014
Before going any further it was clear that I would need some spare parts. Few phone calls later I picked this up-
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With the gasket matching done and everything clean i started to build the engine back up-
Head cleaned and new stem seals fitted-
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New MLS head gasket-
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Before fitting the injectors I flushed the nozzles-
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The nozzle holder was that tight on one of them I managed to snap the spanner and stab myself in the shoulder with it
Few shots of the head on and the fuel system etc...
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With the front of the engine pretty much sorted I started to work on the inlet/exhaust. Before fitting the turbo I treated it to a new set of internals and cleaned up internal casting marks/defects etc...
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