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Oil change - Whodafunk - 16-12-2013
I've just been trying to change the oil on my 2.0 HDI. The oil filter will not budge at all.
Having just bought it I'm not sure when it was last done. Any tips to get the bugger off?
RE: Oil change - Midnightclub - 16-12-2013
Screwdriver through the middle and twist
Oil change - Frosty - 16-12-2013
Large Water pump grips
RE: Oil change - Slam Wagon - 16-12-2013
Chain whip
RE: Oil change - Whodafunk - 16-12-2013
Well I tried a strap and a claw but that didn't work. Just off to borrow a chain.
I don't fancy the screwdriver method incase I butcher it and it still won't come off
What's your preferred way to access it... Top or bottom?
RE: Oil change - Tom - 16-12-2013
The grips are good, I like the metal strap type ones personally. I one used a broom handle to beat a flat on the filter then knocked it round. Also used a big pair of stilsons to do one. But the screwdriver thing has never worked for me.
RE: Oil change - silverzx - 16-12-2013
Never had a problem with the cheap chain things!
RE: Oil change - Piggy - 16-12-2013
More leverage for me from above.
i use a metal filter strap tool...never failed me.
Flat/blunt chissel and hammer may help get it started
RE: Oil change - Whodafunk - 16-12-2013
Sorted it with a metal strap
I put 4 litres in but it's over the max line on the dipstick and the oil level sensor on the rev counter shows full. I'm wondering now if there was some oil left in in it that didn't all drain out. It takes 4.25 litres right?
I'm gonna let it all settle now and check it in the morning. Just enjoying a well deserved beer now
RE: Oil change - Curt - 16-12-2013
Hands > waterpump pliers > chain if it's a stubborn one
RE: Oil change - C2K - 16-12-2013
Use the Halfords 3 prong claw, never fails. Had to use a breaker bar with it once!
RE: Oil change - Toms306 - 16-12-2013
(16-12-2013, 07:31 PM)Whodafunk Wrote: Sorted it with a metal strap
I put 4 litres in but it's over the max line on the dipstick and the oil level sensor on the rev counter shows full. I'm wondering now if there was some oil left in in it that didn't all drain out. It takes 4.25 litres right?
I'm gonna let it all settle now and check it in the morning. Just enjoying a well deserved beer now
You'll never get ALL of the old oil out, if it's any good it'll cling to everything internally - good for startup lubrication, but not good for draining it fully lol.
Hopefully it's not too far over the max mark? A bit over on these is fine though.
RE: Oil change - Kezzieboy - 16-12-2013
Pikey screwdriver method ftw.
RE: Oil change - Dum-Dum - 17-12-2013
I've got proper oil filter pliers and they have never been an issue.
Is that 4l still showing over the max with the car having been started and run for 2 mins (to fill the filter) and the car on flat level ground?
The HDi takes 4.51 L to fill it according to the book so that would indicate alot of old oil left in there.
RE: Oil change - Alan_M - 17-12-2013
Don't know if you did this, but take the car for a spin before doing the oil (leave it for a bit to cool first, obviously). Oil's thinner when warm/hot and sludgy when cold.
RE: Oil change - Whodafunk - 17-12-2013
I let the car run for 5 mins stationary before doing the oil. I should have taken it for a spin really and this might explain why some of the old oil was left in.
This morning it read just over max on the dipstick. I've driven it 15 miles since so will take another reading and see how it lies.
I'm planning to put some engine flush in and then drain it all out on Friday and start afresh.
I'm not sure what grade was in it before but I want 5w40 in it.
RE: Oil change - C2K - 17-12-2013
Best time to do it is after a good drive. I got in the habit of dropping it after my 60 mile commute as it was lovely and thin. I'd advise against the flush as you'd know already if you needed it.
I did it this morning though whilst i'm off work, so just did a 10 mile lap of the block to get a bit of temp in it and left it for 40 mins to drip whilst I did the ball joint.
RE: Oil change - Mattcheese31 - 17-12-2013
rubber gloves ftw . . . never failed yet . .
RE: Oil change - Quinny - 17-12-2013
(17-12-2013, 12:34 PM)Whodafunk Wrote: I let the car run for 5 mins stationary before doing the oil. I should have taken it for a spin really and this might explain why some of the old oil was left in.
This morning it read just over max on the dipstick. I've driven it 15 miles since so will take another reading and see how it lies.
I'm planning to put some engine flush in and then drain it all out on Friday and start afresh.
I'm not sure what grade was in it before but I want 5w40 in it.
10w40 is one of the oil's recommended for HDi's, according to the 406 manual. (I don't use anything else.)
Don't bother with the engine flush when you change it, as your recent oil will have been enough to clean anything out. Just make sure that the car is on an even surface, and stick the kettle on and have a brew while it drains out.
RE: Oil change - Tom - 17-12-2013
Get it roasting take the sump plug out and go have a cup tea while it drains, no rush!
RE: Oil change - Poodle - 17-12-2013
Take off the filler cap first to help it drain faster, removing the filter during draining will help too.
RE: Oil change - Dum-Dum - 18-12-2013
Yeah as said, take it for a really good drive to make sure the oil is properly hot then get it up in the air and draining asap when you get home.
Have a cup of tea and do the fuel/air filters while you wait to give it a real good chance to drain. Make sure you use the right sump plug, some 306s have 3 of them and you need to use the lowest of them.
RE: Oil change - Ruan - 18-12-2013
Don't do the screwdriver through...
Seen it so many times where there's an oil filter with the end gnawed off, but the base of the filter still firmly attached to the car, then you're really f*cked.
RE: Oil change - Whodafunk - 23-12-2013
What's the drain plug size on the hdi?
Oil change - Frosty - 23-12-2013
Should be 21mm
RE: Oil change - Whodafunk - 23-12-2013
Surely not? It's the square plug size I'm after on the inside of the plug
RE: Oil change - Poodle - 23-12-2013
Yes its 21mm. The square drive on some old plugs is 3/8" iirc.
RE: Oil change - Whodafunk - 23-12-2013
Can someone clarify which is the drain plug on the hdi? The one at the rear has a square drive but hardly any oil came out and it's still showing full. What's the white plastic cap for underneath??
RE: Oil change - Piggy - 23-12-2013
The drain plug is at the bottom of the sump...at the bottom of the engine...
How can there be anything underneath/below that?!
RE: Oil change - Whodafunk - 23-12-2013
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Not the best picture but is it the one at the back right that's in the dark?