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2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 16-06-2013
A question for someone who knows more about ECUs and maps than me (everyone then lol)
If i fitted a 2.2 HDi 16v lump with a std HDi box, fly and shafts and used all the DW10 sensors and put new plugs on the 16v injectors would it run alright till i could get a decent remap?
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Poodle - 16-06-2013
Haven't they got piezo-electric injectors?
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 16-06-2013
f*ck knows, thats why i asked
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Ruan - 17-06-2013
Nah it will run, doubt it'd run well enough to wait, youd need the software at the same time as the engine going in.
But why 2.2?! The 2.0 16v is the same power, smaller, more modern, fits easier, more readily available...
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Niall - 17-06-2013
(17-06-2013, 09:12 PM)Ruan Wrote: Nah it will run, doubt it'd run well enough to wait, youd need the software at the same time as the engine going in.
But why 2.2?! The 2.0 16v is the same power, smaller, more modern, fits easier, more readily available...
because Dum is genuinely under the impression that bigger is automatically best.....which is true right?
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Piggy - 17-06-2013
(17-06-2013, 09:21 PM)Niall Wrote:(17-06-2013, 09:12 PM)Ruan Wrote: Nah it will run, doubt it'd run well enough to wait, youd need the software at the same time as the engine going in.
But why 2.2?! The 2.0 16v is the same power, smaller, more modern, fits easier, more readily available...
because Dum is genuinely under the impression that bigger is automatically best.....which is true right?
I ruddy hope so
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 17-06-2013
[deep south accent]Aint no substitute for cubes[/deep south accent]
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Ruan - 18-06-2013
Well, there is... A better cylinder head and a better turbo...
I think pretty much every manufacturer has proven this by downsizing engines whilst making more power...
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - darrenjlobb - 18-06-2013
Big displacement motors are a thing of the past.
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Piggy - 18-06-2013
^^^^ get ready to see tuning boys work on the new ford 1litre turbo plant...
I rekon double the stock power of 100bhp will be seen soon
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Midnightclub - 18-06-2013
'blonde' moment here.. but will the 8v management work with a 16v head/lump? with a remap ofc..
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 18-06-2013
(18-06-2013, 08:29 AM)Midnightclub Wrote: 'blonde' moment here.. but will the 8v management work with a 16v head/lump? with a remap ofc..
Yes
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Anton - 18-06-2013
Piggy they've already got 205bhp out of it....
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Midnightclub - 18-06-2013
I knew the 2.2 did, but the 2.0 16v as well? wasn't sure if because it's much newer it'd caused an issue?
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 18-06-2013
I suppose as the block is the same capacity it would probably be easier to register too
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Midnightclub - 18-06-2013
Would've thought so, looking on eBay they aren't anywhere NEAR as expensive as i thought either... Hmmmm
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - darrenjlobb - 18-06-2013
The management will run any engine provided you connect it up correctly, it will just smoke / be gutless etc until mapped to suit that exact engine...
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 18-06-2013
See IMO those engines are still really expensive at around a grand is the cheapest i can see on ebay.
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Midnightclub - 18-06-2013
There was a cylinder head for £95 and a block with pistons the lot etc.. for £190 earlier
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 18-06-2013
yeah but add in all the ancilaries and a HG and suddenly your talking big money
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - darrenjlobb - 18-06-2013
You often see big job lots appear on ebay of high milage motors, there basically ex taxi engines, taxi firms just swap them out at 200-300l miles, as the cars worth investing in. Worth it if your rebuilding, maybe not if not though...
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 18-06-2013
yeah and i suppose thats a good sign for tuning strength if they have easy 300k reliability
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Choppin - 18-06-2013
Just to add, the 1 litre ford engine has already been modified in a road goin version of the formula ford with over 200bhp with standard internals and just a bigger turbo and map
2.2 HDi 16v questions - Jonny b - 18-06-2013
There is no substitute for size a 5 litre v10 supercharged and turbo charge will always make more power than a 1litre!!!
f*ck the planet!! f*ck economy!!!! Give me poweeeeeeerrrrrrrr!!!!
Ha ha
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - con67 - 19-06-2013
im half way through my 4th or 5th 16 to 8v conversion here, everything runs fine
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - con67 - 21-06-2013
cant stop thinking about a 2.0 16v hdi 306 with a gt2260, i hate you dum dum!!!! i think ive everything here though id need to investigate what went wrong with the 2 16v engines i have here....
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 21-06-2013
Con id love to know mate, I cant get it out my head either cos ive got an awesome turbo sitting right here that would really suit the 2.2
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - darrenjlobb - 21-06-2013
(21-06-2013, 01:57 PM)con67 Wrote: cant stop thinking about a 2.0 16v hdi 306 with a gt2260, i hate you dum dum!!!! i think ive everything here though id need to investigate what went wrong with the 2 16v engines i have here....
I replaced my old 2256 with a gtb2260vk, so once its back on the road one day, we will see!
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - Dum-Dum - 21-06-2013
GT2359VK is what ive got
RE: 2.2 HDi 16v questions - darrenjlobb - 21-06-2013
Will make good power. Altho ull have to find someone with bigger balls to map it, cant see anyone doing a good job otherwise...