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stage 2mapping questions - hdi shaun - 30-04-2013
Am looking at tuning to stage 2 on my hdi fmic etc but dont really wanna change the turbo or pump. Just looking for a few answers as search button is abit irritating. i am looking to find a good well known mapper who can map the car safely on the stock items and what bhp and torque am i looking at safely running
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Jonny81191 - 30-04-2013
I'd go and see Pro_Steve, he's a top guy and will sort you out a map to suit.
With everything stock you're gonna need to stay around the 140-150 mark if you want any kind of long term reliability, especially for the turbo.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - hdi shaun - 30-04-2013
Thats perfect. Just what im looking for. Be enough to annoy a few cars and stay reliable :-)
RE: stage 2mapping questions - londondan86 - 30-04-2013
Pro steve has done my s2 map, running 152bhp with fmic, good '6 clutch and turbo wound to 22psi
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Eeyore - 30-04-2013
yeh for stage 2 you dont need to upgrade the pump or turbo. Its just a map. You do however need a good clutch! A sstandard map will take a stage 2 map with limited torque but the full on torque map youll need a better clutch.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Jonny81191 - 30-04-2013
(30-04-2013, 08:59 PM)hdi shaun Wrote: Thats perfect. Just what im looking for. Be enough to annoy a few cars and stay reliable :-)
Yeah, also you need to consider how much torque you want to run, might be worth going for a reduced torque map in order to save your clutch.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - hdi shaun - 30-04-2013
Its on a stage 1 now with straight through exhaust and uprated clutch so torque is fine. How much does pro-steve charge?? And were is he locatad
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Jonny81191 - 30-04-2013
Just PM him on here mate, I'm not 100% on costs but shouldn't be stupid.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - hdi shaun - 30-04-2013
Ok chap thank u :-)
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Jonny81191 - 30-04-2013
No worries
RE: stage 2mapping questions - silverzx - 30-04-2013
Shaun just buy a map off him and upload it yourself. If you need a hand just say, Trent.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Poodle - 30-04-2013
Are you Somerset fella? If so, go see Steve, he's only in Bristol and for a few quid more he'll do a proper diagnostic session on it at the same time.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - silverzx - 30-04-2013
(30-04-2013, 09:40 PM)Poodle Wrote: Are you Somerset fella? If so, go see Steve, he's only in Bristol and for a few quid more he'll do a proper diagnostic session on it at the same time.
ProSteve lives in Bristol? Though he was a midlander!
How come we ain't seen him at meets!
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Poodle - 01-05-2013
No, it's whippy that's the midlander. Steve doesn't drive a 306 any more and is pretty busy - this mapping thing is only on the side, he has a real job too lol.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Just Sean - 01-05-2013
Who is the countries best 306 mapper?
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Poodle - 01-05-2013
Probably pug1off or someone like that. Best HDi mapper is steve imo.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Just Sean - 01-05-2013
hmmm... i was gonna go see whippy after my car was done with pump and things, might go see steve instead... hes certaintly more local
RE: stage 2mapping questions - hdi shaun - 01-05-2013
Trent i didnt realise u were on here hows things. Ye ill give him a pm once i sort out my fmic then were good to go :-)
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Poodle - 01-05-2013
Whippy's pretty stuck in his ways from what i've heard - big fuelling upgrades are pointless, the standard turbo is fine, there's no point revving these engines etc. Steve will just do what you ask, and do it well, no better customer service imho.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Arron - 01-05-2013
Whippys in leeds, west yorkshire...
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Poodle - 01-05-2013
Oh is he that far north? I thought it was birmingham for some reason lol.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - NP306 - 03-05-2013
whats the best clutch for a stage 2?
RE: stage 2mapping questions - londondan86 - 03-05-2013
I run a '6 clutch and flywheel but I've read that a cg paddle clutch is the best. I'm sure others will confirm that though
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Just Sean - 04-05-2013
oive gto a helix 4 paddle and uprated pressure plaste, unsprung, andits awesome... expensive thouugh
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Poodle - 04-05-2013
CG is most certainly not the best, a large number of people have had serious problems with theirs and customer service has been poor when they've taken up issues with the sales team. Helix and Sachs paddle clutches have both got good reps, you'll pay for it though. There are several budget options about, but the jury's still out on whether they're any good as long-term solutions - dt, gti6, berlingo, etc.
RE: stage 2mapping questions - londondan86 - 04-05-2013
Fair enough poodle. I knew I heard of cg but I couldn't remember whether it was good or bad! Lol
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Poodle - 04-05-2013
Haha yeah i've done that before! You see the name a lot and your brain somehow decides that must mean it's good... stupid brain, can't be trusted lol.
stage 2mapping questions - callumcull - 10-05-2013
I'm running Steves stage 2 map, with FMIC, decat, 072 injectors, and a standard LuK clutch and it holds the power absolutely fine!
I couldn't recommend Steve enough, absolute legend as I've said many times before
RE: stage 2mapping questions - Midnightclub - 10-05-2013
Is that a full fat map or torque limited? it will hold the power but depending on how you drive will depend on how long it holds for
stage 2mapping questions - callumcull - 10-05-2013
(10-05-2013, 01:46 PM)Midnightclub Wrote: Is that a full fat map or torque limited? it will hold the power but depending on how you drive will depend on how long it holds for
Full fat! No sign of clutch slip at all, and I drive it like I've stolen it. Very heavy on acceleration!