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Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Ruan - 15-05-2012
Garrett won't refurb or supply parts for refurbing any VNT turbo...
http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/technica ... ochargers/
Read there for their lame-ass reasons to buy a brand new turbo...
Cheeky bastards!
EDIT: Be wary of ebay turbos, mostly replica units which in fairness - are shit.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 15-05-2012
Lol.....garrett are wankers! :roll:
I could just turn the golf into a nad..... :think:
Also, even the ebay shitters cost £700 new......this isn't an xud samass.....
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - samass - 15-05-2012
Ruan Wrote:Garrett won't refurb or supply parts for refurbing any VNT turbo...
http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/technica ... ochargers/
Read there for their lame-ass reasons to buy a brand new turbo...
Cheeky bastards!
EDIT: Be wary of ebay turbos, mostly replica units which in fairness - are shit.
lots of lovely scaremongering in there! thats a sure fire way to make them money....
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 15-05-2012
Tbf, not supplying replacement parts will make them money anyway...imagine if car makers did that..........'oh, your TU headgaskets gone sir? Thats a shame...you'll have to buy another car then.....' :roll:
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - C.A.R. - 15-05-2012
Is this your new Golf where the turbo has blown?
Wasn't related to your DIY remapping was it?
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Ruan - 15-05-2012
Trust me, if Tom struggles to get a turbo off or fix his computer, I'd be fairly sure there's no DIY remapping going on... Just putting on another persons map...
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 15-05-2012
c.a.r. Wrote:Is this your new Golf where the turbo has blown?
Wasn't related to your DIY remapping was it?
Yeah....well tbh the car was high milage and had taken some abuse anyway (hence the DMF being f*cked even before the map)....the turbo was always chucking out a bit of grey smoke (again before the map) but I never really thought anything of it as the old one was the same.
The map certainly didn't help the dmf though, and did break the turbo as a) I didnt get a boost gauge in quick enough and b) the maps made for a 150 turbo anyway...I just couldn't (and still can't) find one, so I got impatient and put the map on anyway.
However, no-one else has had a problem with this map, but with any mod, if its on its last legs...the mod will break it....
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Midnightclub - 15-05-2012
Blimey tom you're managing to break these golfs quicker than you can buy them
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - procta - 15-05-2012
tom if the car wasnt well to start with why the hell did you 1 buy it 2 remap it if you knew the said parts were not well?
always make sure the engines nice and healthy 1st before a map,
at least you have got the turbo out anyway so what happens now?
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 15-05-2012
procta Wrote:tom if the car wasnt well to start with why the hell did you 1 buy it 2 remap it if you knew the said parts were not well?
always make sure the engines nice and healthy 1st before a map,
at least you have got the turbo out anyway so what happens now?
It was fine when I bought it....but as usual, a week later the problems start to show. I think its when cars are sat for sale not being driven everything gets a rest.....then I start doing 50 miles a day in then and they can't take it, cos I looked over this one damn well, twice before buying! :problem:
With the turbo, I naively thought is find a 150 turbo for a reasonable price a week or two after the map so there wouldn't be a problem....clearly this wasn't the case, and I admit that's my fault entirely.
As for what happens now, I really don't know, maybe ill call the scrappy to take it away. I wouldn't have taken the turbo off if I'd known it couldn't be refurbd.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - procta - 15-05-2012
Toms306 Wrote:It was fine when I bought it....but as usual, a week later the problems start to show. I think its when cars are sat for sale not being driven everything gets a rest.....then I start doing 50 miles a day in then and they can't take it, cos I looked over this one damn well, twice before buying! :problem:
With the turbo, I naively thought is find a 150 turbo for a reasonable price a week or two after the map so there wouldn't be a problem....clearly this wasn't the case, and I admit that's my fault entirely.
As for what happens now, I really don't know, maybe ill call the scrappy to take it away. I wouldn't have taken the turbo off if I'd known it couldn't be refurbd.
christ tom, you cannot scrap it ffs!! you have just spend 2k on buying pal!
is there not another turbo you can put on? ie from a less specd golf or a vag counter part.
i just cannot see who this model be that rare for parts! when there are loads of golfs about.
what was the place of getting a 400 quid turbo you mentioned? mite that be worth a shot. also the dmf you mite get a discount on too, some motorfactors do that too.
also sorry if it sounded nasty tom pal if you thought i was. just remember to give a " new car" some bedding in time with you. as you dont always know what faults its gonna throw at you.
another thing tom, your cracking lad! i hate to see anyone fail on what they set their minds too.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Niall - 15-05-2012
I can't see that there is no turbos or similar about that you can't fit. Either that or take your broken one to a specialist to repair.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 15-05-2012
Nah, you're alright mate, I understood you perfectly, was just in a shite mood earlier.
I'm not really gonna scrap it, worst comes to worst ill sell it for spares.
The turbo is the same on all 130 tdi vags (but not all vags use the same manifold) and the 150 one fits too. I think the problem I'm having is that the engines are sold with the turbo attached, so very few seoerate turbos about. There are now a few direct replacement turbos on ebay (so not really big enough to take the map) but I think that's all I can afford really....just gotta hope they work. After that the car will get sold, I can barely afford to sort the turbo so certainly can't sort the dmf too.
It's a shame not to finish the project but end of the day it comes down to money, or lack of it, as with everything.
I wouldn't say it was a complete waste though, I've learned a hell of a lot from it and it did well as ny college project.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 15-05-2012
Niall Wrote:I can't see that there is no turbos or similar about that you can't fit. Either that or take your broken one to a specialist to repair.
Garett don't sell replacement parts for them!
And the main problem is getting the manifold to match as its complete with my turbo....not seperate unfortunately.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Curt - 15-05-2012
None about eh...?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk4-B ... _500wt_715
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GO ... 1009wt_932
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-VW-GOLF- ... _768wt_932
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A3-ALHAMBRA-S ... 1310wt_932
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Go ... 1417wt_982
There's even a whole 50k 130 engine for £250!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vw-Golf-1-9-T ... _500wt_949
Don't know which ones will do but they are out there, and at least one is what you need...
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - procta - 15-05-2012
if it turns out cheeper to buy a full engine with turbo then id just do that, when i engine went on my rover. i was in too minds to buy another donor car just for its engine. as the price was going to be the same. also you could either sell the engine on or use it to learn about. ie doing a timing belt, headgasket etc.
Toms306s Project - Fodge! - THE_Liam - 16-05-2012
You know what? 20VT it
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 16-05-2012
Yes, curt, as I said there are a few direct replacements, 2 of the ones you found would fit...but the top ones oily anyway so probably already blown a seal.
I'm not sure what that engine is, its bot the same code AA miner so would have to see the mani before knowing if it fits :think:
Will get on ebay in colege in w bit.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 16-05-2012
Right, I'm stuck on what to do now, ideally want the car back OTR on tuesday at the very latest.......
I cant really afford the turbo.........but will I lose more than £400 selling it with a broken turbo? I assume I would.
So I could buy this on that curt posted - its only a 130 one and is potentially broken looking at the oil at the inlet...for £300 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320907328378? ... 1438.l2649
OR a recon'd 150 one for £400 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TURBO-CHARGER ... a6bc1#shId
Am I likely to get more money selling it with the 150 turbo upgrade over the 130 along with all the other mods? :think: I just don't know what to do.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - procta - 16-05-2012
tom, id buy the 150 turbo as at least you know its ok. plus they may take the old one off your hands too.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 16-05-2012
procta Wrote:tom, id buy the 150 turbo as at least you know its ok. plus they may take the old one off your hands too.
Tbh I think I'll ebay the old one.......theres a broken (spares/repair) 150TDI turbo on ebay with bids at £100 already.
hock: For a broken one! :oI just don't know where I can find £400 lol. :| I bought the whole NAD for about that!
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - procta - 16-05-2012
Toms306 Wrote:just have to save pal,procta Wrote:tom, id buy the 150 turbo as at least you know its ok. plus they may take the old one off your hands too.
Tbh I think I'll ebay the old one.......theres a broken (spares/repair) 150TDI turbo on ebay with bids at £100 already.
I just don't know where I can find £400 lol. :| I bought the whole NAD for about that!
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 16-05-2012
procta Wrote:Toms306 Wrote:Tbh I think I'll ebay the old one.......theres a broken (spares/repair) 150TDI turbo on ebay with bids at £100 already.just have to save pal,
I just don't know where I can find £400 lol. :| I bought the whole NAD for about that!
How?
I earn about £40 a week.....Thats £30 for diesel, and a tenner for food........can't exactly save until I've got a decent job. :/
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Strikeforce - 16-05-2012
Can you not borrow from parents or dig into any savings (thats if you have any lol)
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 16-05-2012
Strikeforce Wrote:Can you not borrow from parents or dig into any savings (thats if you have any lol)
I could dig into savings yeah, bout the only option tbh. But obviously what I spend on this I can't spend on a 'new' car.
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Strikeforce - 16-05-2012
If you're set on a new car flog the golf for around £4-500 cheaper than you would of with a working turbo, you're going to be a few hundred down whichever option you choose
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 16-05-2012
Strikeforce Wrote:If you're set on a new car flog the golf for around £4-500 cheaper than you would of with a working turbo, you're going to be a few hundred down whichever option you choose
Doesn't quite work that easy though.....no-ones gonna pay ~£1700 for a car that doesn't even run atm lol. :?
Toms306s Project - Fodge! - THE_Liam - 16-05-2012
How the hell have you got 2 cars on 40 quid a week?!?!
Re: Toms306s Project - Fodge! - Toms306 - 16-05-2012
THE_Liam Wrote:How the hell have you got 2 cars on 40 quid a week?!?!
Its not £40 a week, thats just the 'basic' rate if you like, I do various things at weekends to earn money too.
However, I saved a fair amount of money from when I was working....plus due to not so great circumstances, have had 3 lotsof inheritance fairly recently.
I don't mind buying cars as you can 'most' of the money back, I mean I can't lose out ona £400 NAD lol, but when it comes to expensive parts breaking....thats when I realise I really can't afford a VAG tbh.
I know I'll get plenty of 'told you so' but meh, I was still working when I bought the first golf, I wasn't to know what would happen shortly after that.
Toms306s Project - Fodge! - THE_Liam - 16-05-2012
I know what you mean about the vag thing, that's kinda how I feel about the Skoda. Spent a fortune getting it right and I can't enjoy driving it because I flinch at every noise it makes. I've been offered my old Audi 80 back at a good price, I'm really tempted because that car was mint.