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RE: Play in wheel - adamm306 - 16-08-2013
So for now am i just removing the brake disk and seeing if there is still play in the hub without the disc?
RE: Play in wheel - Grant - 16-08-2013
That sounds a safe bet
RE: Play in wheel - Scott - 16-08-2013
Correctamundo. While the wheel is off take a look at the points where the wishbone connects to the subframe for additional play.
RE: Play in wheel - titch - 16-08-2013
Have a look at the ball joint when your moving the hub and see if it is tight in the hole in the hub or if there is any movement, as mentioned before the hole in the hub could have worn.
RE: Play in wheel - adamm306 - 16-08-2013
Ok thanks all will report back tomorrow is there any chance the actual hub is fooked?
edit: we will cross that bridge when we come to it. running before i can walk here
RE: Play in wheel - Grant - 16-08-2013
Theres a possibility that the hub could have ovaled where the balljoint meets it, but for it to create that amount of play, it would have to be fooking horrific. Highly unlikely IMO.
RE: Play in wheel - Scott - 16-08-2013
If the balljoint moving around in the hub for some time before it was replaced it could have ovalled the hub, in which case it will need to be replaced. However that's not a terrible fix. It can be done in a day, and labour can be paid for in bacon and egg baguettes
RE: Play in wheel - Niall - 16-08-2013
(16-08-2013, 08:53 PM)Scott Wrote: If the balljoint moving around in the hub for some time before it was replaced it could have ovalled the hub, in which case it will need to be replaced. However that's not a terrible fix. It can be done in a day, and labour can be paid for in bacon and egg baguettes
I wont work for any less than a egg, bacon AND Sausage baguette personally! But watching how much play was in that wheel, i highly doubt its the hub. Mine was chronically f*cked and it only messed about when pulling away and stopping hard.
RE: Play in wheel - adamm306 - 16-08-2013
awesome my kind of labour
thanks for all your input tonight guys ill get some detailed pics and diagnosis tomorrow and report back
RE: Play in wheel - titch - 16-08-2013
What if it is the wrong size ball joint? ( just trying to think outside the box)
Maybe as it's a phase 1 it is supposed to have the 16mm ball joint but if a previous owner has fitted an 18mm hub in the past. And some one has fitted a 16mm ball joint.
Or would the 16mm ball joint just fall out of the 18mm hub when you jacked it up.
RE: Play in wheel - adamm306 - 16-08-2013
(16-08-2013, 09:00 PM)titch Wrote: What if it is the wrong size ball joint? ( just trying to think outside the box)
Maybe as it's a phase 1 it is supposed to have the 16mm ball joint but if a previous owner has fitted an 18mm hub in the past. And some one has fitted a 16mm ball joint.
Or would the 16mm ball joint just fall out of the 18mm hub when you jacked it up.
good point.. would you notice it? or would it fall out like titch says
RE: Play in wheel - Poodle - 16-08-2013
It would, yeah.
I'd be surprised to see a p-bush cause that kind of movement, don't suppose it's the track rod? (Not the track rod end, but the bit connecting the TRE to the steering rack.)
RE: Play in wheel - 306Dan - 16-08-2013
if it was the wrong size ball joint i think it'd just about hold in place with the retaining bolt but only just, you should be able to feel the knocking at 12 and 6 on the wheel though, but it cant hurt to get a torch under there and have a nosey
RE: Play in wheel - Scott - 16-08-2013
If it was the wrong size ball joint would have fallen out soon after moving or the moment he tried to turn.
Re: Play in wheel - bigtone0777 - 17-08-2013
Haven't looked at the vid yet coz on my phone but quarter to 3 movement normally indicates a track rod end or wear in the rack itself. Maybe try getting someone to wobble the steering wheel side to side slightly while you look at the hub with the wheel off and if there's any movement in the steering wheel before the hub starts to move it's definitely tre or rack I'd say. If the plays in the rack you might have missed it concentrating on the tre. How many miles has the car done?
Edit
Don't think it's this as you'd have noticed but after changing my hub recently the car developed a knock when accelerating while cornering. When I couldn't find anything wrong I checked all the bolts were done up tightly and got a bit more nip in the ball joint clamp bolt and bingo. Just mentioning as it's worth checking all the nuts and bolts on you ball joint and wishbone etc
RE: Play in wheel - bigtone0777 - 28-08-2013
Hi Adam, did you get this sorted? What was it?
RE: Play in wheel - adamm306 - 08-09-2013
No never got it sorted in the end I had a bit of a boo boo at a roundabout and ended up scrapping the car. I have a P2 now
RE: Play in wheel - bigtone0777 - 08-09-2013
Aww man that sucks!
RE: Play in wheel - adamm306 - 08-09-2013
yeah it does but live and learn and all that i suppose!