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RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - CJ_Derv - 08-11-2012
Let me know if you do go for a spin tonight
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - 4WayDiablo - 08-11-2012
(08-11-2012, 02:23 PM)Matt Wrote: Supercharger? Yawn.......
No supercharger? Bigger yawn....
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Pugmarshall - 08-11-2012
(08-11-2012, 05:02 PM)4WayDiablo Wrote:(08-11-2012, 02:23 PM)Matt Wrote: Supercharger? Yawn.......
No supercharger? Bigger yawn....
Lol yeah... "but everyone goes S/C"
There are more N/A GTi6's than S/C ones.
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - GTI 6 - 08-11-2012
Turbo FTW
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - silverzx - 08-11-2012
Could take a leaf out of Darrens book and twin turbo + supercharge it. 800bhp+ GTi6?
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 09-11-2012
First proper mod (other than the suspension / brakes etc)
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Absolute win, total must for any track car IMHO!
JP
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 12-11-2012
Well it fills me with great joy that the headgasket has gone.... 20,000 miles in the DT with over double stock HP and never broke anything engine related... 1000 miles in a stock engine'd '6 and the head gasket has popped. Great. Job for the weekend
On the plus side, it still goes well and that diff has made the world of difference... plus it looks great when it's sat overheating:
![[Image: DSCF8574.jpg]](http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/jammapic/Peppin/DSCF8574.jpg)
![[Image: DSCF8575.jpg]](http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/jammapic/Peppin/DSCF8575.jpg)
![[Image: DSCF8577.jpg]](http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/jammapic/Peppin/DSCF8577.jpg)
![[Image: DSCF8578.jpg]](http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/jammapic/Peppin/DSCF8578.jpg)
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - darrenjlobb - 12-11-2012
Lol world of petrol reliability and epic mpg
Oh wait
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 13-11-2012
Haha... ringing true Darren!
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Ben - 13-11-2012
Didn't realise quite how expensive the high boost kits were from lynx! Including the fitting and everything else they offer it adds up to nearly £9000! Not sure how much you could knock off by doing the work yourself and sourcing some parts yourself I didn't bother working it out.
I'm assuming your going to be trying to do it for considerably less than they charge? I'd be interested to know roughly how much you can get it down to.
Do you think in terms of reliability it would be as reliable as an engine which was origonally designed to be charged, for example a 1.8t vag engine. It has similarish stock figures to a gti engine and figures and can be upped to over 400 bhp with the right mods. So basically does it make sense that a 400 bhp 1.8t engine would be more reliable than a 400 bhp gti engine, because it was designed for boost in the first place? Or doesn't it make any difference once you've upgraded rods/pistons and what not..
Edit : Just realised stock figures of the engines aren't actually that simular, but it still helps express my query so I'll leave it.
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Ruan - 13-11-2012
Problem with the J4RS engine is that its high compression as standard, they make 167hp with no turbocharging, a 1.8t produces 150hp with turbocharging.... The compression ratio is a major factor when boosting an engine...
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 14-11-2012
(13-11-2012, 04:17 PM)Ben Wrote: Didn't realise quite how expensive the high boost kits were from lynx! Including the fitting and everything else they offer it adds up to nearly £9000! Not sure how much you could knock off by doing the work yourself and sourcing some parts yourself I didn't bother working it out.
I'm assuming your going to be trying to do it for considerably less than they charge? I'd be interested to know roughly how much you can get it down to.
Do you think in terms of reliability it would be as reliable as an engine which was origonally designed to be charged, for example a 1.8t vag engine. It has similarish stock figures to a gti engine and figures and can be upped to over 400 bhp with the right mods. So basically does it make sense that a 400 bhp 1.8t engine would be more reliable than a 400 bhp gti engine, because it was designed for boost in the first place? Or doesn't it make any difference once you've upgraded rods/pistons and what not..
Edit : Just realised stock figures of the engines aren't actually that simular, but it still helps express my query so I'll leave it.
I am not using any sort of kit, will be doing it all myself / with a mate.
Lynx (IIRC) use a C30 supercharger, I'm going for the larger C38 and standalone management from RSTuning.
With the right bottom end and supporting mods, there is no reason why 400 - 500hp shouldn't be pretty reliable...
JP
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Ed Doe - 14-11-2012
(14-11-2012, 11:38 AM)jammapic Wrote: I am not using any sort of kit, will be doing it all myself / with a mate.
Lynx (IIRC) use a C30 supercharger, I'm going for the larger C38 and standalone management from RSTuning.
With the right bottom end and supporting mods, there is no reason why 400 - 500hp shouldn't be pretty reliable...
JP
Lynx do the high-high boost charger kit with the c38. MUCH better because of the additional flow, but to make it work you have to reduce the compression ratio accordingly.
The original high-boost was just a c30 kit, which made the power delivery much more peaky. The torque spread is massively increased with the c38, hence it's a better choice if you're going down that route.
Stan off the '6 forum has been running 454hp for a while now on his c38 high high booster IIRC. mind it seems to spend its entire time garaged so I dont know how many actual miles it's done!!!!
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Matty - 25-11-2012
Came here expecting to look at a 500hp '6.
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Birk - 25-11-2012
It will be nice to see a sc 6 actually go on another rolling road for a change.
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Dicky - 28-11-2012
I'd rather a 200bhp D Turbo to a 500bhp '6 all day.
But nevertheless thats me, I'll be keeping an eye on this
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 28-11-2012
It's going to take longer than I originally thought... buying a house - urgh!
/// 16" Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2's with Yokohama A048R's for sale. Freshly powder coated. Offers?
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - CJ_Derv - 28-11-2012
So i can whip you for even longer
hahaha
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Harky - 30-11-2012
JP - You have new PM!
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Tom - 30-11-2012
Shame about the derv, good to see your cracking on with this though!
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Ben - 30-11-2012
Just noticed the title says turbo. Is it being turbo'd again now or did you just not change the title?
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 03-12-2012
It's still a possibility - something to mull over in the new year... I'm really concerned about drivability and heat issues with the turbo route, the supercharged option has so many more things going for it... any which way, I'd still like to crack 500hp with it - maybe a pipe dream, we will see.
Just ordered myself all the bits to do the headgasket and a set of cams too (seemed rude not to when the head has to come off anyway). Will get it done over the next few weeks and send the head off for some light headwork too. If I can make 180-190hp naturally aspirated it should keep my interest for a couple of months whilst giving me time to work towards something a bit more meaty when I've sorted the house out etc.
JP
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Ed Doe - 03-12-2012
You do realise running na cams on a boosted engine is less than ideal? You'll get less midrange torque and it'll be more peak of to drive; exactly what you're trying to avoid by charging it...
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - Ruan - 03-12-2012
Not to mention the problems with valve overlap where you're likely to have increased manifold pressure, blowing most of the mix out the exhaust...
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 03-12-2012
Confused?? They aren't going in the boosted engine, that's on a stand in the garage. The cams are just to give a boring car a bit more pep.
JP
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - CJ_Derv - 03-12-2012
(03-12-2012, 03:09 PM)jammapic Wrote: The cams are just to give a boring car a bit more pep.
JP
So you can keep up for a bit you mean
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 03-12-2012
Still doubt it would keep up mate, so slow!
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - sam - 03-12-2012
Im confused this being turbo'd or charged?
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - jammapic - 03-12-2012
Ideally turbo'd, running and rstuning ecu and mapping, but it depends on a few issues I need to work through first, namely heat issues and drivability.
It may end up just being another c38 super high boost charged 6 but we will see.
I had designs on having the engine half way to built now but what with being screwed by my DT engine build (still remaining nameless for now) and buying a house its sort of been put on hold.
I've got to fall back in love again so will fix the headgasket, cam it and enjoy it a while before investing serious monies in boost...
JP
RE: Turbo' 306 GTi-6 Track Car - CJ_Derv - 03-12-2012
(03-12-2012, 04:45 PM)jammapic Wrote: Still doubt it would keep up mate, so slow!
Ur takin me out wen i come up for them bits
need to see what these 6's are about 
Good things come to those who wait