(28-01-2014, 07:27 PM)daniel909 Wrote: The only thing I'm about piss off with I only just got my car mapped by Tb lol so might sell my ecu
Jimbo have you swap them over yet or is it still a hdi

(28-01-2014, 07:27 PM)daniel909 Wrote: The only thing I'm about piss off with I only just got my car mapped by Tb lol so might sell my ecu
Jimbo have you swap them over yet or is it still a hdi

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(28-01-2014, 07:27 PM)daniel909 Wrote: The only thing I'm about piss off with I only just got my car mapped by Tb lol so might sell my ecu
Jimbo have you swap them over yet or is it still a hdi

(28-01-2014, 02:47 PM)mcglynn Wrote: youve obviously never driven a well set up hdi then jimbo

They drive like a new car engine wise, with smooth hard torque delivery and will rev hard with the right mapping. Different league altogether, more modern VW etc have went CR Injection which says something!

(29-01-2014, 08:55 AM)darrenjlobb Wrote: Unless someone figures out the driver responce / weird way it runs maps, the edc15 hdi is NEVER going to drive well. Its just horrible.

Ive had cars mapped by pro steve, TB, JP, and some crappy generic maps, and yes some make power, some dont, but they ALL still drive like a TYPICAL HDI...lathergic, no life, just irritating as heck to thrash. theres no need for such chronic delay on the throttle pedal / rev down...It just feels like a grans car engine, even when they have 200hp....

Dont get me wrong, EVERYTHING about common rail is better, apart from this single issue, which just totally ruins everything thats right about it IMO.

A tuned XUD feels like a tuned fun sport car, and tuned hdi feels like a hdi for a bit more power...imo anyways.

(29-01-2014, 06:24 PM)Toms306 Wrote: You wont ever 'fix' the throttle delay with a TPS, as theres always going to be a slight electrical delay and 'numbness', its not a mind reader lol, but it's never really bothered me tbh...turbo lag annoys me much more!!

You have to remember though, mech pumps and IDI was only binned on these in the late 90's due to emmsisons regulations, which CR/electronic injection will always win on....they weren't brought in for a better driving experience.

End of the day it's down to personal preference really, neither is actually 'better' all round.

(29-01-2014, 06:32 PM)darrenjlobb Wrote:

(29-01-2014, 06:24 PM)Toms306 Wrote: You wont ever 'fix' the throttle delay with a TPS, as theres always going to be a slight electrical delay and 'numbness', its not a mind reader lol, but it's never really bothered me tbh...turbo lag annoys me much more!!

You have to remember though, mech pumps and IDI was only binned on these in the late 90's due to emmsisons regulations, which CR/electronic injection will always win on....they weren't brought in for a better driving experience.

End of the day it's down to personal preference really, neither is actually 'better' all round.

Not true at all...the ECU is EASILY fast enough to react INSTANTLY...and with DI / CR they should be MORE responsive than mech pumped engines...proper tuned diesels on proper management is instant..the speed / accuracy of CR ecu systems is insane...its purely in the software to make them drive "smooth" that causes this issue...but its crap!!!

(29-01-2014, 06:46 PM)mcglynn Wrote: I would tell anyone with a laggy hdi to get the pedal maps and drivers wish maps altered accoedingly, if you feel they're not responsive.

I know with mine James only done this in one of my later maps, but I instantly said to him (he didnt tell me as it was a bit of a trial to see if I noticed) that it was a lot sharper in pedal to engine response.

I know in standard form in neutral I would have to 'PUSH' the pedal to get a response, now if i just blip it I get an instant blip in the revs.

Sometimes this is misjudged as the dials are slower to react than the engine, but if like me you open the door or window, and 'blip' the throttle it is very very responsive.