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RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Piggy - 10-03-2014
Not guna whip the valves out for new seals and regrinding?
Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 10-03-2014
(10-03-2014, 07:36 AM)Piggy Wrote: Not guna whip the valves out for new seals and regrinding?
I will be doing that and valve clearances. Do you reckon it's best to grind the valves in before or after the skim?
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Tom - 10-03-2014
(10-03-2014, 10:45 AM)Frosty Wrote:(10-03-2014, 07:36 AM)Piggy Wrote: Not guna whip the valves out for new seals and regrinding?
I will be doing that and valve clearances. Do you reckon it's best to grind the valves in before or after the skim?
Makes no odds, the skim wont come in contact with the valve seats.
Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 10-03-2014
I know that just wondered if it was better to do 1 before the other
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - turkish - 10-03-2014
(10-03-2014, 03:43 PM)Frosty Wrote: I know that just wondered if it was better to do 1 before the other
Loving this car Mr Frost!!
20th post post
Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 10-03-2014
Cheers tony may get it back on the road at some point lol
Need a few more posts to catch up with me lol
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Piggy - 10-03-2014
I just like the send a completely bare head...can be cleaing up the valves while its being done.
Plus always worth inspecting valve seats and guides in case any are damaged or need replacing
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Jamieh2013 - 10-03-2014
Just had a read through this
Awesome project
looked very well on the white challengers 
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 10-03-2014
Got a little bit more done tonight. Got the pistons all cleaned up ready for the new rings
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The Hdi rods against the Xud rods
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Got the new rings fitted to the pistons
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Then had an accident. Not sure what to do know really. Im prob going to see if I can get a set of rings for just 1 piston but if I cant I will use an oil ring that come off with a new spring.
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Then a bit more bad luck with a pretty deep cut to my thumb
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It wouldn't stop bleeding and I was getting blood all over the pistons so I did a quick repair
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Then I could crack on again and connected up the pistons and rods
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And that was about it for tonight. Just need to try and sorting something out about the piston ring tomorrow
(10-03-2014, 09:09 PM)Piggy Wrote: I just like the send a completely bare head...can be cleaing up the valves while its being done.
Plus always worth inspecting valve seats and guides in case any are damaged or need replacing
I think I will get it skimmed then sort out grinding the valves in etc
(10-03-2014, 09:47 PM)Jamieh2013 Wrote: Just had a read through this
Awesome project
Cheers it will be back on the challengers when I get it back on the road
Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - turkish - 10-03-2014
You're hero frosty, that plaster x)
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Tom - 12-03-2014
How do you put piston rings on pistons? Do they stretch enough to get over the piston?
Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 12-03-2014
Yeah they stretch a little to get on, though I over stretched 1 and it snapped.
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 24-03-2014
Been a few weeks since i updated this. Not done a massive amount more but i will update with what i have done.
I got another power steering bracket off craigus's engine so it will save me swapping so many bits over. Had a slight issue with the allen key bolts not wanting to come undone. I cracked the heat out they then soon come undone
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Fort i may as well give it a bit of a clean up and some paint
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I finally got the rods and pistons back in to the block the other day as well
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Then pop the oil squirters back in and the oil pump on
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I decided to go with a steel sump in the end rather than an alloy 1. So i gave it a paint and then popped it on with new gasket and sealant
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I've got the head pretty much ready to be bolted back on to the block now after grinding the valves in and checking the valve clearances.
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And thats about as far as the engine is at the moment. I hope to maybe get the head bolted down this week.
I decided while the car is off the road i would whip the axle apart again and fit all new seals as i knew the axle was pretty good. Got all the seals from peugeot and we get pretty good price from peugeot at work i think which is ideal, though i did have to get some bits in more than a pair but always good to have spares i guess.
Axle came apart like a dream but that was expected as i had it a part not that long ago
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Good bearings
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Slight bit of wear on the pins but not to bad
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Off came the main tube seals. They looked fairly worn out
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And on with the new
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And all back together. I used new anti roll bar seals as well and new offset washer etc
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And thats about it for now. Will update a bit more later on in the week
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Piggy - 24-03-2014
good work chap
coming along nicely...Im going to do my axle seals soon when I have another play with the height and change me TBS...
any spares you wana sell save me buying loads of the same, PM me
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 24-03-2014
Cheers, I will check to see what I got left over and let you know tomorrow. Can let you know prices of the seals if you want?
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - c.gerrard - 24-03-2014
HURRY UP DUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember you need to get it back on the road and then it will need fixing non stop to get it ready for show season
Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 25-03-2014
(24-03-2014, 10:22 PM)c.gerrard Wrote: HURRY UP DUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember you need to get it back on the road and then it will need fixing non stop to get it ready for show season
Don't worry it will be at FCS this year.......well hopefully anyway
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Piggy - 25-03-2014
(24-03-2014, 09:40 PM)Frosty Wrote: Cheers, I will check to see what I got left over and let you know tomorrow. Can let you know prices of the seals if you want?
Yeah good lad
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 27-03-2014
Right i finally got round to bolting the head on. So head studs in
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Head gasket on, I went for a 5 notch vitor reinz
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Head on
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And then the head bolted down and torqued up
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Had a slight issue as i left 1 of the nuts on my toolbox down work so had to pop down work which was bit of a pain.
Also got a few shinies. Had a devil stainless steel exhaust pop up local on Dturbo fb page so i got that
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And also had this pic from Darren the other night
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RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Jimbo - 27-03-2014
Maybe a little bit jelous of that exhaust
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 27-03-2014
Just hope it sounds good
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - 7057sam - 27-03-2014
Great work
that exhaust looks very nice
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - mr_fish - 27-03-2014
good tidy work all round Frosty,
btw that can't be the lobb land shed...you can see all the way to the end wall...
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Piggy - 27-03-2014
Thats a beast of an exhaust!!
Be good to see someone else using a decent gasket and ARPs...remind us what turbo you using?
I guess thats a 11mm hybrid darren special?
Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - devils_fuel - 27-03-2014
4 inch box like mine? Mine sounds like an RST burbling away on tickover
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Tom - 27-03-2014
Good work Matt. What is it ever made official on the exact bore size of those exhausts?
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 27-03-2014
(27-03-2014, 04:14 PM)7057sam Wrote: Great work
that exhaust looks very nice
Cheers, Well the exhaust popped up local so fort I would snap it up
(27-03-2014, 04:41 PM)mr_fish Wrote: good tidy work all round Frosty,
btw that can't be the lobb land shed...you can see all the way to the end wall...
Lol I guess he went to the effort of tidying up as he was working on my pump
(27-03-2014, 04:50 PM)Piggy Wrote: Thats a beast of an exhaust!!
Be good to see someone else using a decent gasket and ARPs...remind us what turbo you using?
I guess thats a 11mm hybrid darren special?
Yeah I prob don't require the studs with this turbo but they are something good to have and as ZX did the group buy it was rude not to get a set.
My turbo is some form of K03 not very big but comes on boost nice and early. Though on the subject of turbos I have bought a gt2056 off ebay as it seemed pretty cheap (£60 plus £10 postage) but im not sure what it will be like and im waiting for it to turn up
And the pump isn't a 11mm its a 10mm
(27-03-2014, 06:24 PM)devils_fuel Wrote: 4 inch box like mine? Mine sounds like an RST burbling away on tickover
Yeah pretty sure it is 4 inch. Be interesting to see how it sounds
(27-03-2014, 06:33 PM)Tom Wrote: Good work Matt. What is it ever made official on the exact bore size of those exhausts?
This 1 seems to be about 2.4" inner and 2.5" outer diameter
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 02-04-2014
Starting to get some of the bits bolted back onto the engine. So got the pump, injectors and oil cooler on
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Oil filler with new breather hoses
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Injector lines
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Cam belt pulleys and water pump. Went for a Gates kit which inclued the water pump. Need to drop the engine off the stand to bolt flywheel on to then time it up and fit cam belt
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On the weekend i fitted another sunroof as well to hopefully sort out my leak. I didnt seal it in with rtv this time though. I put some Vaseline around the glass seal to hopefully help. I'm also going to fit a new aerial just in case that was leaking
Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - devils_fuel - 02-04-2014
Same gates kit I bought off eBay, sub £80 delivered? Surprised the water pump impellers were metal and not cheap plastic
Good engine build mate, jealous of your space to build it
Fingers crossed that sunroof is ok now
RE: Frosty's Ph1 Black D Turbo - Frosty - 02-04-2014
(02-04-2014, 07:07 PM)devils_fuel Wrote: Same gates kit I bought off eBay, sub £80 delivered? Surprised the water pump impellers were metal and not cheap plastic
Good engine build mate, jealous of your space to build it
Fingers crossed that sunroof is ok now
I got the cam belt kit from a motor factors we use at work. Think it was just over £80 though.
Yeah pretty lucky with places to work tbf. Building the engine up my mates farm in the garage where we have done a fair few engine changes etc over the years. Luckily I will do the engine change down work so will be able to use the ramp to make life easier.
I do hope this cures my water leak issuse