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Dile(M)ma - c.gerrard - 12-11-2013
So, I have got a bit of an issue and I would like some opinions.
Basically with the track car project coming up early next year, I will be needing a car that I can tow with. I'll stick up another thread at some point soon about what cars you guys would recommend for that. Now, if we lived in a perfect world, I could get insured on my parents X-Trail and just use that whenever I needed to tow the track car. However, the policy that the car is on, means I can not get insured on it until I was 25. Also, my mum has business insurance on it, meaning it would be quite expensive.
I would not be able to afford to buy/insure/maintain another car, so I do not think I would able to keep my current DT.
With the modifications and the state that my car is in, the only way in which I can justify it, is to take it to track days, but seeming as we'll have the track car, I would want any excuse possible to drive that. It therefore pretty much renders my car a little bit pointless....
At the end of the day my daily commute is a 15-minute drive, half of which is through narrow twisty lanes, which I can't drive quick anyways (unless I wanted to die), so I do not think I will miss my car too much, as long as the replacement is everything I want it to be, with a decent sound system.
I'll stick up a G.I./W.I.W. thread when I get time later on the week, to see how much you reckon the car is worth in its current state and take that from there.
I just feel torn between my heart and brain.
My brain tells me it takes logical sense to sell it on.
My heart tells me I've been on a massive adventure with this car and it seems a shame not to see it all the way through.
RE: Dilema - Jimbo - 12-11-2013
I had a similar dilemma with my black DT ended up selling it and regretted it ever since
From experiance id think long and hard about it mate
RE: Dilema - Dum-Dum - 12-11-2013
Part ex on a 306 estate or get a vitara xud
RE: Dilema - cully - 12-11-2013
the next question is have you got the correct licence to tow a car on a trailer ? or do you need to take another test?
RE: Dilema - c.gerrard - 12-11-2013
(12-11-2013, 07:36 PM)Jimbo Wrote: I had a similar dilemma with my black DT ended up selling it and regretted it ever since
From experiance id think long and hard about it mate
I am doing, I know I'll miss it, but even more epic win is replacing it.
(12-11-2013, 07:54 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Part ex on a 306 estate or get a vitara xud
306 estate are not big enough. I'll have to check the limits on a vitara, they're a bit small though, could look a bit out of proportion!
(12-11-2013, 08:03 PM)cully Wrote: the next question is have you got the correct licence to tow a car on a trailer ? or do you need to take another test?
I believe I am all good.
RE: Dilema - Dum-Dum - 13-11-2013
306 estate will be big enough to tow your track car. 1200kg limit and I reckon your car will be 900kg so get a sub 300kg trailer and get it plated at 1200 gross and you'll be fine.
RE: Dilema - Jonny81191 - 13-11-2013
The issue there is finding a sub 300 kg trailer that's big enough. Ideally carl needs something a bit heavier. 1400kg would be a better weight.
Also from a police point of view, there's more chance of being pulled over when you're towing a 306 with a 306. It just looks illegal imo.
RE: Dilema - puglove - 13-11-2013
200 or 300 tdi discovery. Will pull the weight, you can tune the pump and turbo, lift kit & wheels you can go green laneing , also a pratical winter hack ??
RE: Dilema - darrenjlobb - 13-11-2013
You really dont want to be towing a track car miles around the country with a landrover though...landrovers are bledy awfull for any distances...
RE: Dilema - silverzx - 13-11-2013
Daihatsu fourtrak 2.8TD?
Again, not amazing for long distances but I've driven worse!
![[Image: Daihatsu-Fourtrak_1997_800x600_wallpaper_04.jpg]](http://img2.netcarshow.com/Daihatsu-Fourtrak_1997_800x600_wallpaper_04.jpg)
RE: Dilema - mr_fish - 13-11-2013
If the outfit your pulling with looks overloaded/wrong, more chance of mr ministry pulling you up and giving you ball ache.
I expect the bigger cars have gross weight when pulling? but just means you'll have to get a bigger car for the towing machine.
What about an 806? XUD 1.9 in it and enough space for tools/spare track tyres/sleep in/etc.
and I reckon that could pull over the tonEarly part of next year we'll be looking for something to pull with, but a lot of the 4x4 vehicles cant pull the max of 3.5 ton, only landrovers seem to but as Darren said...awful for long distances.
RE: Dilema - Poodle - 13-11-2013
3 series touring, best of both worlds for your needs.
Be sure its what you want to do though, seems a shame when you've just got yours working so well.
RE: Dilema - Jonny81191 - 13-11-2013
A 406 was one of my suggestions, it's small enough to be a cheap daily (don't forget the tax and fuel economy on 4x4's) and tows like a dream. But get either the XUD or the 110 HDi, the seimens managed HDi90 is horrible to drive, fairly gutless and a PITA to remap for the extra 40 or so torques it desperately needs.
Or an old LPG converted Ovlov v70..
RE: Dilema - c.gerrard - 13-11-2013
I'd ideally want an estate.
I've looking mainly into Audi A4's. They're about the right size and come with a 2.5 tdi engine. It's not an engine that I know much about, but they seem pretty decent. Any of you have any experience of them?
The estate's look ideal as well, but with them, you run into a lot of quattros.
RE: Dilema - puglove - 13-11-2013
Yeah tbh the older discos arent nice over long distance. We use the new TDV6 to pull the defender now and thats pretty dam good over long distance ....... But im guessing your budget doesnt stretch that far lol
RE: Dilema - Jonny81191 - 13-11-2013
Can't believe I only just noticed the thread title. The correct spelling, Carl, is "dilemma"
/spellingpolice
RE: Dilema - c.gerrard - 13-11-2013
Yeah, my budget is whatever i get for my car, plus a bit more for the right car.
Poodle, would love one of those, but because of where I live, i need a car that won't fail miserably when it snows.
F*ck you Jonny, stay down south!
RE: Dilema - Jonny81191 - 13-11-2013
(13-11-2013, 02:21 PM)c.gerrard Wrote: F*ck you Jonny, stay down south!
Meh, you always correct me when I use object pronouns in the subject position. So I shall correct your spelling.
RE: Dilema - procta - 13-11-2013
(13-11-2013, 11:15 AM)Jonny81191 Wrote: A 406 was one of my suggestions, it's small enough to be a cheap daily (don't forget the tax and fuel economy on 4x4's) and tows like a dream. But get either the XUD or the 110 HDi, the seimens managed HDi90 is horrible to drive, fairly gutless and a PITA to remap for the extra 40 or so torques it desperately needs.
Or an old LPG converted Ovlov v70..
I was about to say 406, or a rover 75 diesel, as those were rated the best tow car.
RE: Dilema - Stephen - 13-11-2013
Mondeo estate
I love my mondeo, such a comfy car
RE: Dile(M)ma - Poodle - 14-11-2013
Left field choice: what about a hyundai santa fe? Reliable, cheap, 4wd, comfy, decent on the motorway and you could comfortably tow your house in one.
RE: Dilema - me-tm - 14-11-2013
(13-11-2013, 10:42 AM)mr_fish Wrote: What about an 806? XUD 1.9 in it and enough space for tools/spare track tyres/sleep in/etc.
I feel you've overlooked this, so I'm quoting it to bring it to your attention again.
Big boost XUD towing bus! What's not to like?
Re: Dile(M)ma - THE_Liam - 14-11-2013
Vauxhall Monterey? Good over distances, proper off road ability, great for towing, half the price of a Trooper. The 3.1TD is thirsty but I think it can run veg...
PM me about your car!
Re: RE: Dilema - WiNgNuTz - 14-11-2013
(14-11-2013, 12:05 PM)me-tm Wrote:(13-11-2013, 10:42 AM)mr_fish Wrote: What about an 806? XUD 1.9 in it and enough space for tools/spare track tyres/sleep in/etc.
I feel you've overlooked this, so I'm quoting it to bring it to your attention again.
Big boost XUD towing bus! What's not to like?
This!
I think I may have found the ideal solution for my missus who keeps on about how are we gonna fit my daughters and a newborn (she's not pregnant yet though!) in a 306?
Definitely sounds like a winner for towing as well!
RE: Dile(M)ma - mr_fish - 14-11-2013
(14-11-2013, 12:23 PM)THE_Liam Wrote: The 3.1TD is thirsty but I think it can run veg...
I think this is one of liam's sole requirements in a vehicle when he's looking at potential daily hacks
RE: Dile(M)ma - Jonny81191 - 14-11-2013
(14-11-2013, 12:59 PM)mr_fish Wrote:(14-11-2013, 12:23 PM)THE_Liam Wrote: The 3.1TD is thirsty but I think it can run veg...
I think this is one of liam's sole requirements in a vehicle when he's looking at potential daily hacks
He's northern, veg is cheap, northerners are, well, northern. 'Nuff said.
Re: Dile(M)ma - THE_Liam - 14-11-2013
Damn right! I love the fact that the grasping twats in Westminster get nothing from veg oil, and it's that cheap I can afford a second car!
RE: Dile(M)ma - Dicky - 14-11-2013
Would say a Pajero but they are gutsy as f*ck! mine did 19mpg on a run..
Fourtrak 2.8td are decent as said above
RE: Dile(M)ma - silverzx - 14-11-2013
(14-11-2013, 02:57 PM)Dicky Wrote: Fourtrak 2.8td are decent as said above
*number1*
RE: Dile(M)ma - Toms306 - 14-11-2013
Finally, someone added an M!
I'm not much help on the topic though, I'd just sell it as I don't get attached to stuff lol.