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Often boils down to this
(and it keeps coming up recently on forum/fb/real life)
Buy £300 15yr old peugeot hdi with no history or known care been given...
Treat like a shed/van/mpv/off roader/racecar...
Still don't service or maintain...
Then moan it breaks and complain that french stuff is junk.
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Piggy's hit the nail on the head there sadly, although I wouldn't say that it's unique to French stuff by any means.
Mind you, dip your toes into classics and some "restored" cars that have had many thousands spent on them are utter horrors once you start looking closer...
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The newer Volvos (HDi) do have VNT and they are spectacular
Given the choice between Niall and the sheep. I would choose the sheep!
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(21-06-2016, 01:52 PM)Poodle Wrote: This right here is the crux of the issue alright, most vag owners i know will think nothing of dropping £500 on a service, whereas most of you would scrap an hdi over that. Unfortunately that attitude affects reality and as such there's a lot more knackered hdis out there compared to stuff like the golfs.
Cheap cars attract cheap owners.
It happens to everything eventually once they fall to in price to below a grand or so, just unfortunate that French cars as well as stuff like Ford and Vauxhall tend to be cheaper when new and have heavier depreciation, so they fall into the hands of neglectful penny-pinching owners sooner.
As said though, it happens to everything eventually - just look at many aging "premium" cars (BMW, Audi, Lexus etc) that are now parked looking sorry for themselves in sink estates up and down the country. You know they're not going to even get an oil change, let alone a proper comprehensive service, and repairs will be limited to the bare minimum required to scrape through the MOT re-test. Anything vaguely sporty you know will get the same lack of care, only it'll be thrashed from cold everyday as well just to compound things...
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You're lucky Pugs arnt rover levels of cheap. Some owners will scrap a car just because they banged their toe on the wheel