Thoughts on standard Stage 1 HDI RR Printout

[MY95]

Peoples opinions on this graph/results? Looks very smooth to me, pretty torquey for a standard stage 1! Was aiming for 125bhp though, although it drives well so that's all that counts I guess. Made 99 at the wheels, haven't worked out the percentage loss yet.

   

[cully]

whose map is it?

i will add my printouts if i can find them
three maps back to back runs on the same dyno

[MY95]

Cully you got pretty much the exact same figures and curve as mine! Mines a whippy stage 1 but quite a tame one, not pushed at all.

[Toms306]

Whippy maps only claim 120bhp...

Pro steve should be 125bhp

JP S1+ should be ~135bhp

[MY95]

Whippy claimed 125/200 with mine Tom , but I got 121.1bhp/210lb ft so ive lost bhp and gained torque, but it the mid range on diesels that matter so im happy enough aha :p
I think JP's 135bhp claim is a bit high, would love to see one on the rollers, would smoke like hell too!

[Toms306]

Well all the Whippy maps I've seen/had have been 120 lol. Maybe he was competing with Steve by the time he did yours!

JPs doesn't smoke like hell...obviously smokes a bit more than the slow ones though.


Also, you have less torque than my puny 1.6 btw...

[MY95]

Fair enough Tom aha
Makes me want to go Stage 2 even more aha! Just cant beat Stage 1 nippyness/reliability though!
Your 1.6 has over 210 lb ft? Thought they were 180 lb ft or something standard?

[Toms306]

I don't work in that old lb ft shite. 285Nm from the S1 remap on the 1.6.

(Admitedly it's only a decimal more haha, but still...you're carrying around all that extra engine for no reason )

Edit - Just looked back at the 1.9PD remaps... Torque on those from stage 1 was over 450Nm with 180bhp (ok, now I know why the Focus still feels slow haha)... Made me think though, more people should be fitting VNT's to HDi's tbh!!

[cully]

ive run all 3 stg 1 maps
whippys map was even power throughout the rev range
pro steve's map is stronger on the acceleration and felt a stronger map i ran this map for a long time in my Estate
JP's map is harder again on acceleration and pulls all the way to the red line im currently running this map on my HDI Dturbo

all three will smoke if you mat the loud pedal this is mainly because the turbo needs to catch up on boost for the extra fuel
and obviously if your smokin the MPG is poor so you tend to drive without the smoke and the car still pulls like a train

[Toms306]

Lost count of the number of maps I've run on HDi's lol... All returned roughly the same MPG for me as well. Favourite has to be JP's S1+, but that may not the best for longevity! I wasn't a huge fan of the Whippy 120, BUT it's been on that car for many years and miles with no fuel system issues even now somewhere around 300k miles...

[Ruan]

Thoughts?

It's a DD Shootout, so quick, put your tyres at 50psi, put some 0w20 in the engine and raw diesel in the gearbox and gain 5-10hp!

Otherwise, yeah, stage 1 HDi remap init!

[JTaylor2005]

I have currently got a Pro-steve stage 1 map with a straight through exhaust. It pulls well but runs out just after about 3300rpm. Is the JP map worth it for the extra pull you get higher up the rev range?

[silverzx]

Thoughts?

It's a DD Shootout, so quick, put your tyres at 50psi, put some 0w20 in the engine and raw diesel in the gearbox and gain 5-10hp!

Otherwise, yeah, stage 1 HDi remap init!

Wagwan blud.

[Piggy]

I have currently got a Pro-steve stage 1 map with a straight through exhaust. It pulls well but runs out just after about 3300rpm. Is the JP map worth it for the extra pull you get higher up the rev range?

Just sounds like classic stage1...

Beyond that you need more boost/intercooling to allow fuel to keep being pumped in without melting things... Afaik.

So to get rid of it leaning out... Stg2!

[Toms306]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Qh9LYXa7E

[JTaylor2005]

Thats what I thought. Does anyone happen to have a dyno print out of one of these JP stage 1+ maps??

[toseland]

Whippy claimed 125/200 with mine Tom , but I got 121.1bhp/210lb ft so ive lost bhp and gained torque, but it the mid range on diesels that matter so im happy enough aha :p
I think JP's 135bhp claim is a bit high, would love to see one on the rollers, would smoke like hell too!

~Mine was a heavy JP s1+,  i'll dig up the results,  came in at 135bhp iirc,