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well as Tom has got a GTI6 had to go one better
so i have now spur of the moment purchased another 6 for myself
my idea was to break it to keep my two 306 in parts but i think its to good for that
i may save it and sell it on, but still undecided untill i get it home and look under it properly
good bits
straight clean shell
w reg Ph3
has a rebuilt top end
toyo proxys all round
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other than that it is a std car
started first time after more than 12months
bad bits
been stood for over 12 months
has a knock in one big end
but was layed up as soon as it happened
what do you recon its worth?
1, as is?
2, with new shells,cambelt and 12 month MOT?
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Hmm, Chris, JJ, now you...everyones buying cars, I'm feeling inadequate! 
Big end knock is such a shame though, won't be worth much at all like that. I would imagine around a grand with MOT and a decent engine though. Depending on service history and mileage etc.
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Hmm would love to see a track manstone 
Just put the engine you've just rebuilt in it.
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IF you can get away with just putting a set of shells in it, you can have that fixed in less than an hour. If it's got a rebuilt head, I'd imagine it will be a snapper which will be why the bottom end has gone.
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why are the bottom ends likely to go after being a snapper?
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An hour for replacing a set of big end shells!? I wish I worked at Nialls pace!
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(24-01-2015, 07:02 PM)Toms306 Wrote: An hour for replacing a set of big end shells!? I wish I worked at Nialls pace!
It's easy. Jack car up, sump off, plate off, oil pump off, remove big ends and replace, retorque (important bit lol) and put back together.
(24-01-2015, 06:59 PM)cully Wrote: why are the bottom ends likely to go after being a snapper?
I don't know but if you read around the 6 forum, they just always have!!
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Lots of things are easy in theory...its NEVER that easy in practice!
An hour has probably gone in the time its taken to find the tools, position the car, jack it up and drop the sump.
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It is that easy. I've done it my self haha
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Well I suppose you should be used to it by now.  
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on ramps
drop oil
drop sump
remove oil pump
remove windage plate
unbolt caps
remove shells
hardest part is cleaning the gasket faces and working while on your back
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I didn't say it was hard, just don't see it being that quick!
Working on your back is the worst part, everything feels heavier and takes more effort lol, not to mention you'll be getting oil dripped on your head.
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It's worth scrap money as a complete car IMO. I can virtually guarantee you won't get away with replacing the shells, do you not agree Niall?!
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I wouldn't want to say yes or no for certain without seeing the extent of the damage but the chances of you not having to have the crank out is very slim. You never know though, stranger things happen!!
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Seriously, if the big ends have failed, putting in new shells without doing something that will stop it happening again, I can only see it happening again and again! You could spend a fortune on bits for it and be left in the same situation.
I've got a spare GTi6 motor on 105k or so, bits like manifold, alternator/pas pump missing off it, but it is an entire motor, not a snapper, one out of my old car, needs a belt replacement and probably a bit of a clean, but it's a super tidy motor underneath if you are interested.
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is this a mid life crisis? but instead of buying a sports car youve just bought all the gti6s near you?
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how come i been looking for ages and cant find any and its like a walk in the park to you :/
if you sell / break id be interested not to jack the thread
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ive been looking a while for another to keep my fleet on the road
but the one ive found maybe too good to break,
but until I get it home and have a good look over it I wont make my final decision
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I've still got my old engine knocking around Paul
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did you end up stripping that one rocker to find the fault??
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(25-01-2015, 03:55 PM)mspdan Wrote: how come i been looking for ages and cant find any and its like a walk in the park to you :/
if you sell / break id be interested not to jack the thread
Because you want a decent one and Paul bought a broken one...
There are loads on ebay atm though!
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(25-01-2015, 04:26 PM)Toms306 Wrote: (25-01-2015, 03:55 PM)mspdan Wrote: how come i been looking for ages and cant find any and its like a walk in the park to you :/
if you sell / break id be interested not to jack the thread
Because you want a decent one and Paul bought a broken one...
There are loads on ebay atm though!
actually ill have you know Thomas i dont mind a broken one 
haha might have gone one better anyway hopfully this week so ner 
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One better? You didn't buy the moonstone for £2.5k did you?
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(25-01-2015, 04:30 PM)Toms306 Wrote: One better? You didn't buy the moonstone for £2.5k did you?
 very funny...
no no no, you will have wait see as not set in stone and dont want it to fall through 
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Fair enough then, I'll just have to wait.
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(25-01-2015, 04:33 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Fair enough then, I'll just have to wait.
wait for the project thread and my immense swearing
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(25-01-2015, 04:15 PM)cully Wrote: did you end up stripping that one rocker to find the fault??
It's missing a few parts but never got fully into the strip down so it's currently still sat in the shed
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