Speed cameras UK.

[ADV_93]

What's this i've been hearing about some mobile speed camera vans now being in undercover colours? I'm sure they have to be fully visible to road users? Also am i the only one who feels like driving is more pressure than it should be, what with the amount of cameras there are about. I stick to the speed limit, but some times even feel like i'm watching my speedometer more than the road?!?!

[r3k1355]

I've not heard anything about undercover vans - it's abit much to be honest.

Not that driving around everywhere over the speed limit is ok or anything, but seriously there are more important things for the police to be out there doing.

[1616six]

Doesn't bother me at all, stick to the speed limit & you'll have no issues..

You say you don't speed, so why do you feel 'Pressured' ?

[Eeyore]

Don't speed it's simple. I always stick to the limit and therefore never worry about being caught*

[Ruan]

It's true...

When I drive these days, I barely even think about what speed speed I'm doing, because as a general rule, I'm doing the speed limit or slower when I look down... If you're going to get to the point that you're looking more at your speedo than the road, you need to get your right foot looked into for involuntary muscle contractions, it's not difficult to stick to the correct speed?! Surely you know what 30mph feels like?

[Mattcheese31]

yawn . . . . . .it'd be nice to be perfect and "never" go over the speed limit not even slightly . . . . . . . i agree, i find it's more dangerous looking at speedo all the time than driving to the conditions and keeping your attention on the road .

[bashbarnard]

I think everyone knows what speed they are doing if theyre in there own car within 5mph I know I do. Just keep check every so often. I do feel pressured with town driving in genral but for diffrent reasons than speed

[Toms306]

Surely you know what 30mph feels like?

Ridiculously slow...

And creeping from 30 to 40 is so easy, even in a noisy, rattley old 306, even more so in a newer, quieter car. Probably depends how many miles you do though, my old driving instructor could 'feel' the difference between 30 and 33!


I do completely agree about feeling legally pressured on the road, in fact I'm more worried about being caught speeding or parking in the wrong place than I am about running someone over!!

[Piggy]

I do have to agree that speed cameras DO NOT make roads safer.

There are some towns with such regular speed cameras, they are known crash hot spots for the sake of people constantly checking they are under 30.

The only one round me is also at the bottom of a very long hill in a 30mph zone. Very cheekly IMO. I bet it wouldnt catch half as many if it was on the uphill stretch

[bashbarnard]

Not a single speed camera near me nearest one is about 15ish miles away. But they like putting mobile speed vans fricken EVERYWHERE to keep the roads "safe"

[Toms306]

Not a single speed camera near me nearest one is about 15ish miles away. But they like putting mobile speed vans fricken EVERYWHERE to keep the roads "safe"

Unlucky. None down here at all lol. Just the daft sign that illuminates '30' on the road into Ipswich...but only if you're going over 34...tried and tested lol. Still cant make my Nan understand the sign isn't broken when it doesn't illuminate.

About every 6 months there'll be a mobile one this end though, just where the 40 meets a 30 so they can catch a load of unsuspecting people (not sure how that actually makes anything safer!).

I'm not even sure if there are any fixed camera's in Ipswich? Only ones I know of are in Colchester.

[nominous]

Round this way they keep building drop kerbs and those green planking the grass can grow through for the mobile vans.
Quite clear to a local where they are going to be.

What I never quite understand is the roadworks when the average speed is 50 or 40 and you see plenty of people steaming through them with UK plates.
It can't be the first time they've done it.
Are they Masons or something ?
How on earth are they getting away with it ?

[bashbarnard]

I think that about average speed I even had one guy swear at me once for.doing the speed limit through them!!

[Toms306]

Depends where you leave the road... A few years ago there were some on the A14 while they were resurfacing it....but not at every junction so if you were only going one or two junctions and knew where the camera's were you could speed through as there'd never be an average from the next one...

They may put more in these days though!

[Daniel306]

I seen this happen last week, undercover car sitting on a bridge with a camera out the window and 3 Bwm marked cars sitting 1/2 mile down the road pulling cars over

I believe they done need to be marked it there is speed camera signs at the road side

[1616six]

I seen this happen last week, undercover car sitting on a bridge with a camera out the window and 3 Bwm marked cars sitting 1/2 mile down the road pulling cars over

I believe they done need to be marked it there is speed camera signs at the road side

I saw this near Newark the other week.

Saw a brand new Zafira sat on a grass verge with a bloke sat in it.. saw the walkie talkie & cottoned on.... half a mile down the road was one of those permanent VOSA checkpoints for HGVs, sat in it was about 6 Interceptor police cars & 3 bikes...


I do love it when you get a cock in an Audi Q7 speeding up then slamming his brakes on at the overhead cameras in 'Average Speed check' zones.. LOL!

[Mattcheese31]

don't get me wrong, i do know about what speed i'm doing, but i also drive a few different vehicles, and speeds feel different from cars to vans etc. also sometimes she just comes on boost and i'm double the speed limit before i know it . .

[Dum-Dum]

It's sneaky if they are as the cameras are supposed to be a deterrent and about safety but how does it make roads safer if you can't see them and don't know uuntil 2 weeks later.

Speed isn't dangerous on its own anyway it's other factors that cause accidents that are then compounded by the speed of the vehicle.

[Ruan]

However my favourite government con has to be the idea that if you flash your lights at someone to warn of a speed camera, you can be shafted by the police for doing so...

Yet you apparently paint speed cameras yellow to point out they're to make the roads safer - not to generate money.

Ahhhhhhh so it IS about generating revenue, since if I didn't flash my lights, they wouldn't be speeding and you wouldn't make any money.

[Ruan]

Surely you know what 30mph feels like?

Ridiculously slow...

It's not...

30mph IMHO is MORE than enough in built up areas... It's just that they've gotten f*cking stupid with making too many places a 30 zone.

It's the whole cry wolf scenario - you piss off everyone with speed limits in silly places - soon as they see a 30 sign they'll think "bah, everyone knows 30 means it's ok to do 40"...

However I've gotta say - I've managed in over 150k of driving now to not get caught for speeding. The solution as a general rule is A. Not to speed and if you do speed B. Don't get caught.

[Mattcheese31]

It's sneaky if they are as the cameras are supposed to be a deterrent and about safety but how does it make roads safer if you can't see them and don't know uuntil 2 weeks later.

Speed isn't dangerous on its own anyway it's other factors that cause accidents that are then compounded by the speed of the vehicle.

However my favourite government con has to be the idea that if you flash your lights at someone to warn of a speed camera, you can be shafted by the police for doing so...

Yet you apparently paint speed cameras yellow to point out they're to make the roads safer - not to generate money.

Ahhhhhhh so it IS about generating revenue, since if I didn't flash my lights, they wouldn't be speeding and you wouldn't make any money.

Surely you know what 30mph feels like?

Ridiculously slow...

It's not...

30mph IMHO is MORE than enough in built up areas... It's just that they've gotten f*cking stupid with making too many places a 30 zone.

It's the whole cry wolf scenario - you piss off everyone with speed limits in silly places - soon as they see a 30 sign they'll think "bah, everyone knows 30 means it's ok to do 40"...

However I've gotta say - I've managed in over 150k of driving now to not get caught for speeding. The solution as a general rule is A. Not to speed and if you do speed B. Don't get caught.

agree with the above wholeheartedly . . .

[Eeyore]

The solution as a general rule is A. Not to speed and if you do speed B. Don't get caught.

Oh thats where I have been going wrong! I didnt know about B at all! D:

[Anton]

Got to agree with the lanky ginger one.
I must have driven over 200k miles if not 250k in the last 9 years and I've got a clean licence.
Think there's a time and a place to have a bit of fun in your car, don't be stupid and generally you'll be alright.

On the other hand my boss has had over 10 sp30's, I think three are from the same camera that she passes pretty much everyday for the past 10 years... Don't ask me how she does it.

[r3k1355]

I seen this happen last week, undercover car sitting on a bridge with a camera out the window and 3 Bwm marked cars sitting 1/2 mile down the road pulling cars over

I believe they done need to be marked it there is speed camera signs at the road side

I saw this near Newark the other week.

Saw a brand new Zafira sat on a grass verge with a bloke sat in it.. saw the walkie talkie & cottoned on.... half a mile down the road was one of those permanent VOSA checkpoints for HGVs, sat in it was about 6 Interceptor police cars & 3 bikes...

Shit is that on the A1???

[1616six]

I seen this happen last week, undercover car sitting on a bridge with a camera out the window and 3 Bwm marked cars sitting 1/2 mile down the road pulling cars over

I believe they done need to be marked it there is speed camera signs at the road side

I saw this near Newark the other week.

Saw a brand new Zafira sat on a grass verge with a bloke sat in it.. saw the walkie talkie & cottoned on.... half a mile down the road was one of those permanent VOSA checkpoints for HGVs, sat in it was about 6 Interceptor police cars & 3 bikes...

Shit is that on the A1???

Come to think of it, it was A17 Sleaford, there's a large VOSA HGV checkpoint just before the roundabout that has little chef on the left, mcdonalds on the right - I think it was sleaford (I was in a hire van coming from Newark to kings lynn - 99% sure it was the one at sleaford, i pass it twice a month, should know! lol

[Toms306]

Surely you know what 30mph feels like?

Ridiculously slow...

It's not...

30mph IMHO is MORE than enough in built up areas... It's just that they've gotten f*cking stupid with making too many places a 30 zone.

It's the whole cry wolf scenario - you piss off everyone with speed limits in silly places - soon as they see a 30 sign they'll think "bah, everyone knows 30 means it's ok to do 40"...

However I've gotta say - I've managed in over 150k of driving now to not get caught for speeding. The solution as a general rule is A. Not to speed and if you do speed B. Don't get caught.

It does 'feel' slow though, but I agree it's more than fast enough if you're gonna be ploughing down children outside a school. It also depends on the area I think, anything under 40 feels slow through this village, because about 80% of people are doing that or more and it feels normal I guess, so it takes a conscious effort to stick to 30 and hold up a huge queue behind you. But 40 through town feels weirdly fast, even on the 40 limit roads! Odd.

I've only done a 3rd of the miles you have (did 15k a year for the first 3 years, but only 6 a year in the last 2! And so far I've not been caught...that just makes me worry more though, the law of averages means that the longer you go without something happening, the more likelihood there is of that happening! It might just be me that thinks like that though.

The solution as a general rule is A. Not to speed and if you do speed B. Don't get caught.

Oh thats where I have been going wrong! I didnt know about B at all! D:

B is the main rule with any illegal activity!

Think there's a time and a place to have a bit of fun in your car, don't be stupid and generally you'll be alright.

Speeding isn't about fun though, in fact I doubt most people caught speeding are doing it fun! Driving is about getting from one place to another as efficiently as possible and most of the time theres a 'deadline' for getting wherever you're going as well. So people push the limits a bit to get there that bit quicker. And its surprising how quickly you can get places driving like an arse (speeding/overtaking everything etc), people that say speed doesn't get you there quicker must just drive round town all day.

Also, where is this place you're allowed to have fun in a car? Aside from an expensive track ticket I can't think of anywhere that having fun isn't see as dangerous/without due care etc etc?

[Ruan]

It does 'feel' slow though, but I agree it's more than fast enough if you're gonna be ploughing down children outside a school. It also depends on the area I think, anything under 40 feels slow through this village, because about 80% of people are doing that or more and it feels normal I guess, so it takes a conscious effort to stick to 30 and hold up a huge queue behind you. But 40 through town feels weirdly fast, even on the 40 limit roads! Odd.

I've only done a 3rd of the miles you have (did 15k a year for the first 3 years, but only 6 a year in the last 2! And so far I've not been caught...that just makes me worry more though, the law of averages means that the longer you go without something happening, the more likelihood there is of that happening! It might just be me that thinks like that though.

Just because you've got a queue behind you?! So what!! Just because "everyone" is breaking the law, doesn't mean you should too... For goodness sakes it's 10mph... That's an extra 250 metres in a minute and an extra 4 metres per second, it doesn't hold you up that much, but is the difference between life and death, being able to stop and not being able to stop... For the sake of it, what's the point in doing that extra 10mph...

Call me boring - anyone who's been in a car with me tends to know I don't hang about, but as said, there's a time and a place - speeding through villages isn't the place to go "bollocks to it"...

Why does more miles equal more chance of being caught? If you don't want to get caught, just do the speed limit, it's REALLY not that difficult.

Having driven now on German Autobahns - I TOTALLY see why our country hasn't increased the speed limit on motorways, it's for the simple fact that people in this country are retards... 99.999% of people on "derestricted" autobahns are doing 70-80mph... I can count on one hand the amount of people doing over 100mph!! If we did that in this country, you'd have every man and his dog in a shagged mk5 escort going like the clappers and killing themselves, we're just not the same as them, it's a TOTALLY different culture out there that this country doesn't understand.

The Autobahns are also 2 lanes and trust me, you do not get anyone sat in the outside lane for any longer than they have to - even the old grannies can just do it... Over here you'd have Kev in his 1.6 clio doing 115mph with Doris in the outside lane doing 55mph... Driving in this country is a right, not a privilege - and that's wrong!

[1616six]

Living in Norfolk means we've got a million and one B roads, a few A roads & dual carriageways.

I can honestly say I don't speed through villages etc, yes I've had cars overtake me, yes it's annoying, but I really do value my license & the fact it's clean.

I often hit 80mph to pass cars on the dual carriageways, but if I'm sat on a quiet DC, I will stick the cruise on at 70ish and be more than happy.

I've never understood prolific speeders - What's the point? If the speed limit was 80mph intead of 70mph, would you then sit at 90mph? Just to be that bit quicker than everyone else?

I'm with Ruan, having driven between 125 & 150k in the past 5 or so years, I have only ever been stopped by the Police once (3am on the way home from Stansted, in a car I had just purchased from a dealer, so had no reg keeper yet)

I've never even worried about being done for speeding, I just don't get it.

[Mattcheese31]

just like to say 30mph in built up areas is observed by me, i have two children and i value life, B roads in the country are the place to have fun, although they are the most dangerous by far, also i too have a clean licence . .

[THE_Liam]

Want to have fun, get out on the back roads over the moors. Literally thousands of miles of them here, 60mph limit and in most places hitting 60mph at all is difficult they're that twisty.