205 xud build

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205 xud build
#1
Hi all,
im new here so please be kind! lol

I have 205 (not 306 i know) which is stripped out and i was looking for a donor engine, ive found a 306 with a xud lump in it which i will be breaking for the engine and box ect.
It also has a 11mm transit bosch pump which the previous owner bough and never did anything with
Ive been reading through the forum and hope ive found the right answers, but i thought i would ask anyway.
The main questions i have are
1, can i use the 306 box by swapping the diff for a 205 one?
2, Do i need a 9mm bosch pump too, to be able to swap the 11mm head over and to be able to do the gov mod too (using the transit bits)
3, What turbos can be used with good results, i have a garrett gt17 or a gt25 (not 100% sure i need to check numbers) from a b205 saab engine (which i was going to fit to start with), im also going to gearbox mount which ever turbo is recommended to use

sorry for all the questions
im going to start a build thread once i start taking pics ect to back up what i post
thanks all

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Here is a couple of pics or how it stands at the moment

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My plans are to find some non reclining bucket seats for it as it has impreza seats at the moment (which i dont like), im also going to find or make a roll cage too, there are mounts welded in but was sold by the previous owner.
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#2
Im using a gt17 saab turbo on mine,
Spools around 2.25/2.5k rpm
And pulls through quite hard due to the large hotside
Id say good for 150/175bhp on the right setup
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(20-05-2014, 03:40 PM)Jimbo Wrote: Im using a gt17 saab turbo on mine,
Spools around 2.25/2.5k rpm
And pulls through quite hard due to the large hotside
Id say good for 150/175bhp on the right setup



oh that sounds perfect for what im looking for then, i will get some exact part number tonight and post what they are,
have you done the lucas - bosch mod too? im looking to change to a bosch as there is a transit pump included with the donor car i have
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Yeah i wouldnt upgrade the turbo whilst on a lucas tbf,
And regarding the diffs pretty sure.what u said was spot on
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(20-05-2014, 04:03 PM)Jimbo Wrote: Yeah i wouldnt upgrade the turbo whilst on a lucas tbf,
And regarding the diffs pretty sure.what u said was spot on

thanks mate, ive seen one for sale but i cant reply untill ive posted lol
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Well ive just been to remove the turbo and its a gt17 after all,

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even though its quite small compared to some that people seem to be fitting, im still going to be gearbox mounting it though i think!
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Had a visit tonight from the fuel pump fairy too!

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Its a 414, result.

I almost forgot about this,

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I almost forgot about this,

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#8
Ive been struggling to get on with anything this week due to a 8 day headache and where i had my car stored, at a friends workshop has been a slight issue as he has been getting his car ready for a few upcoming shows

So slight development.....ive moved my car and now have access to it as and when i want to.
So tonights plan is to go and remove the rest of the stickers, glue the arches back on (removed by previous owner)
also i will remove the glue or any marks left by the stickers, then its time for a machine polish to see what the paints like.
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(20-05-2014, 10:46 PM)205steve Wrote: Had a visit tonight from the fuel pump fairy too!

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Its a 414, result.

I almost forgot about this,

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I almost forgot about this,

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Sure that pump is right for an xud looks like one with electronic advance on?
On a break from 306oc for personal reasons. If anyone needs or wants me most of you have my number and or facebook messenger
Thanks for the good times guys n gals. I might be back. Who knows.
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(22-05-2014, 04:44 PM)tombarnard1989 Wrote: Sure that pump is right for an xud looks like one with electronic advance on?

he'll only be using the 11mm head from it so won't make a difference


oh and nice start for a build!

you'll need a standard bosch pump to put the 11mm head into

vnt turbo really is the way forward on these things, and you may not need to gearbox mount unless it won't fit behind the engine. gt2052v would be ideal really. or a nice gt2256v if you're coming over the gearbox.
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#11
Ah I see my bad thought he was gonna stick it straight on. 11mm ftw. Need to do this to my pump when it arrives
On a break from 306oc for personal reasons. If anyone needs or wants me most of you have my number and or facebook messenger
Thanks for the good times guys n gals. I might be back. Who knows.
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#12
Nope im looking to get a 9mm pump set up, then do an 11mm conversion using the bits i need from the pump, the only electrical part of the pump is the stop solenoid that i can see (not the greatest pic i know - sorry guys)

I only want to gearbox mount so i can future proof it with regards trying different turbos or the ability to swap them easily too
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#13
If this is the case im sure that pump is wrong. Dont hold me to it though. Someone more experienced might be able to confirm?
On a break from 306oc for personal reasons. If anyone needs or wants me most of you have my number and or facebook messenger
Thanks for the good times guys n gals. I might be back. Who knows.
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#14
From what ive read its digits 5, 6 and & 7 that need to be 414 so fingers crossed
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What front mount is that by the way?
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(22-05-2014, 05:07 PM)205steve Wrote: From what ive read its digits 5, 6 and & 7 that need to be 414 so fingers crossed

yeah this

6th digit is plunger / head size

9=9
0=10
1=11

number after is amount of cylinders, 4 being the correct amount Smile

all set to go
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#17
so i just need to find a 9mm pump now then
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Chris_90 has one on here for salr
On a break from 306oc for personal reasons. If anyone needs or wants me most of you have my number and or facebook messenger
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(23-05-2014, 09:48 AM)tombarnard1989 Wrote: Chris_90 has one on here for salr

ok mate thanks for the heads up dude!
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No problem
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#21
so quick little update.....

as said before the cars been moved as i couldnt get to do jobs as my mate was respraying his nova......well.......


he didnt cover mine up!

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no prizes to guess what colour his car is!

but ive cleaned it off and i just need to claybar the rest of the paint up then it shouldnt be as bad.

I got the rear arches back on too and the rest of the stickers removed and the horrible glue removed too.

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im starting to feel like im getting somewhere now as i can get access to the car as i like

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im leaving the front arches off untill the engines in and the front is built back up

ive also messaged a member about a 9mm set up so fingers crossed its still available

the guy im getting the donor car off has had issues getting his 106gti ready for the modified nationals show this weekend (not for me)
so im not getting it untill sometime next week now, but it gives me time to tart a few bits up in the mean time

OH nearly forgot......
1x Wheel down, 3x to go

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#22
I think I liked it with decals more.
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#23
My best mate owns his own decal company, so they might be off back on soon anyway! i only really took them off to refit the arches as there was a trim mark where the decals had been cut.
I did quite like it too with them on if im honest lol
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(23-05-2014, 03:07 PM)silverzx Wrote: I think I liked it with decals more.

Same Smile Nice motor though, always wanted a white one.
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Quick update from my bank holiday....
I found some non-reclining cobra monaco seats for sale for £50 so they were very quickly bought

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I had to sew a couple of splits up that made them look a little scruffy....

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I also picked up a 9mm pump/injectors and lines from chris_90..... great guy to deal with!


and i picked up a xantia inlet manifold from danny too

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which ive shot blasted off and sprayed up too

whilst i had time today ive started to referb the plastics including the bumpers and the wing mirrors

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couple more pics to follow but off my tea now!!
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