207 1.6 HDI ->>DS3

[DeeTurbo]

I was thinking of getting a Fiesta but now thought the 207's are very cheap.

I'd like a 110bhp version but not with the glass roof that comes on the GT trim. 

Are this available without and what differences are there with the 90bhp and 110bhp engines?

[mr_fish]

90bhp has the Vacuum Wastegate turbo

110bhp has the VNT style.

Think the injectors are different too, but not 100% on that.

[DeeTurbo]

Thanks you.

Any idea on how they handle compared to the 306?

[miles]

Not driven the HDI 207 but a 1.6 petrol and the first thing I thought was how cheap and horrible the interior was, Drive was nothing special either

[Ruan]

I was thinking of getting a Fiesta but now thought the 207's are very cheap.

I'd like a 110bhp version but not with the glass roof that comes on the GT trim. 

Are this available without and what differences are there with the 90bhp and 110bhp engines?

Driven a few, it's like sitting on top of a roller skate and didn't think it was anything special to drive in the slightest. Only advantage is that they are newer and a bit more refined, but frankly with age, they just wear out and the refinement turns to rattle. As above, very cheap interiors, just general mid '00s Peugeot tbh - the lowest of the low quality!

The 1.6HDi is a great engine in honesty, just make sure it's serviced well if a 110 with DPF, just make sure you adhere to the service schedule. Most people assume they know better than the service schedule and then wonder when it goes tits up.

[DeeTurbo]

Driven a few, it's like sitting on top of a roller skate and didn't think it was anything special to drive in the slightest. Only advantage is that they are newer and a bit more refined, but frankly with age, they just wear out and the refinement turns to rattle. As above, very cheap interiors, just general mid '00s Peugeot tbh - the lowest of the low quality!

That's how my g/f's 206 felt and I hated that feeling of sitting too high. Would it feel better on lowered setup?

[Ruan]

Driven a few, it's like sitting on top of a roller skate and didn't think it was anything special to drive in the slightest. Only advantage is that they are newer and a bit more refined, but frankly with age, they just wear out and the refinement turns to rattle. As above, very cheap interiors, just general mid '00s Peugeot tbh - the lowest of the low quality!

That's how my g/f's 206 felt and I hated that feeling of sitting too high. Would it feel better on lowered setup?

It may do, but the entire thing is designed to be operated from that position - dashboard is high and pedal angle is designed to be pushed from above like you're playing an organ, rather than pushed forwards/backwards. Just hated the driving position in general and didn't think it was a very nice place to be. Give me a 306 any day.

[DeeTurbo]

It may do, but the entire thing is designed to be operated from that position - dashboard is high and pedal angle is designed to be pushed from above like you're playing an organ, rather than pushed forwards/backwards. Just hated the driving position in general and didn't think it was a very nice place to be. Give me a 306 any day.

That sounds horrible.

I'm now thinking of spending a little more and getting a DS3, the one with free road tax as the running costs look loads lower.

I've worked out I could save £600 on fuel and road tax.

[RetroPug]

The 90bhp pre-DPF one in the fiesta mk6 is good. You can pick up ZS TDCIs for reasonable money.
They're not a bad place to be sat in either, just not very refined motorway cruisers at all.

They supposedly remap really well- I just haven't done this to mine.

[Poodle]

I like the ds3, a lot of them have been abused though.

[DeeTurbo]

The 90bhp pre-DPF one in the fiesta mk6 is good. You can pick up ZS TDCIs for reasonable money.
They're not a bad place to be sat in either, just not very refined motorway cruisers at all.

They supposedly remap really well- I just haven't done this to mine.

I was thinking of getting a Fiesta mk6 originally after driving my brothers wife's car.

I like the ds3, a lot of them have been abused though.

Abused, really? In what way, lack of servicing and thrashing?

I've seen some have rust issues under the paint around the wing mirrors.

[DeeTurbo]

So,

I went for it, I've bought a DS3.

They are a really nice car shame the feel from driving isn't that good.

I've bought the Dstyle plus, lots of toys. It's powered by the 90bhp 1.6 e-HDI.

I found one a lowish milage one that needs a little tlc so was a bit cheap.

It's got 79k on the clock most the ones I was looking at had over 100k and were £500 or so more.

The main issue I've got with it is that there is bugger all feel through the wheel and I hate the cable shift linkage. I'm thinking the cable might need lubricating and not sure what to do with the steering.

[Piggy]

Naff all steering feel...welcome to all modern little fwd vehicles.

[MY95]

Rust on a 6-7 year old vehicle is a bit alarming!

Ditto to the above for most cars, however I find the newer Fiesta's (maybe not MK8 as I haven't driven one yet) to have great steering feel. The steering on the ST is heavier than in the 306! Much quicker rack and stiffer suspension also.

Got a friend with a 16 plate DS3 with the 1.2 Turbo 110 engine and it goes well and is pretty decent on the juice also. I like them.

[DeeTurbo]

That rust is only because of a poor quality wing and poor repair.

It looks like the car has been in a little unreported bump. So it didn't show on the HPI but to be fair you could tell it from the poor panel alignment.

DS3, do have a rust issue around the wing mirror though, only because of slight movement around the base of the mirror that disturbs the paint.

[welshpug]

that will have had a repair previously to be rusting like that.

check the tyres, if they're wanky budgets that will have a large bearing on steering feel, plus its slippery as f*ck out there at the moment, and yes its a modern small car with EPAS.

E-HDi will have the long gearing and the shift indicators IIRC.

[DeeTurbo]

You are right on all accounts but the all the tyres bar one are Michelin Pilot Sport 3 (205/45/17).

Not sure what they are meant to be like but they are not far off the wear limits so will need replacing soon.

Any recommendations on a better tyre?

[Eeyore]

PS3s are a good tyre. They have now been replaced by the PS4.

[welshpug]

yeah I'd go for ps4

[Poodle]

Great tyre imo. Steering feels like that in all new parts stuff sadly.